[TPR] HSR

[Steve Lisa]

We have dropped floor pans.  We were originally scraping a little bit, but
we cut the drops back a little bit so as to be not so aggressive.  You can
still see some scrapes -- so we must still be hitting a little bit here and
there -- but we don't feel it.  Here at Daytona, the banking is so massive
that the car doesn't really lean -- you can take your hands off the
steering wheel and it almost drives itself around the oval sections.  It is
the tire wear that calls for a little more camber on the upbank tires.  So,
it just settles into a nice stance and doesn't lean drastically (as it does
in the corners).


Regards,

Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 2:09 PM Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

> Too bad about the Norma, that’s pretty crazy stuff. Good thing you brought
> along a reliable Pantera and a passionate crew.
>
>
>
> Whenever I encountered strongly banked track corners, I needed a plastic
> rub pad under the seats to take the heavy impact crunch out of the too soft
> spring rates I would normally run on a road course. What made it worse for
> me was my dropped floor pans also hanging low, I would hit pretty
> upsettingly hard between steel and pavement and You?
>
> Larry
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> *From: *TPR <tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of Steve Lisa
> via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> *Reply-To: *Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, October 31, 2024 at 1:18 PM
> *To: *Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> *Cc: *Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>, David Carpenter via TPR <
> tpr at teampanteraracing.com>, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [TPR] HSR
>
>
>
> Guys,
>
>
>
> We have put Asa Jay to work, and we are having a great time.
>
>
>
> FYI we are not running an oval -- we are running a road course that uses
> the oval.  So it still needs to turn.  And, remember -- this is an FIA
> "1972-spec" Group 3 car with limited changes.  We build the car so that we
> could run in a FIA-pre 12/31/72 group because we complied with the December
> 1972 FIA Group 3 rules (e.g., six attachment points for the cage, stock
> shocks, stock sway bars (we cheated a bit by putting the GTS swaybars
> on)).  Unless we want to build a car that runs in the Group 4, Goup 5,
> Exhibition or Post-73 classes, we pretty much are racing what they sold the
> customers in 72 as a Group 3 car.  Our goal is to finish and show people
> that a nearly stock Pantera can not only look great, but also do pretty
> well in a race and then run for beer. We have enough fully built race cars,
> this one is our piece of art on wheels. :)
>
>
>
> For those that many be interested in more information:
>
>
>
> Here are the HSR Classic Endurance classes -- we are Group A:
>
>    -
>    https://www.hsrrace.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2024/07/03/2024-CL24-Groups-Classses-OFFICIAL.pdf
>
> Here is the entry list -- check out the "Group A" entrants:
>
>    -
>    https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.status/uidEvent/4EFB241D-C7D4-BCBF-DB10E3BED2079E2C
>
> I have not found live TV -- here is the live timing:
>
>    - https://www.race-monitor.com/Live/Race/150540
>
> Here is the schedule:
>
>    -
>    https://www.hsrrace.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2024/10/25/2024-CLDay-Official-Schedule-Supps-V4.pdf
>
> We already lost the Norma Prototype -- the first session cracked the roll
> hoop behind the driver.  After some research, we are finding that many of
> the older tube frame prototypes have stopped running this race because they
> are so stiff and the incredible down force and other stresses are cracking
> their frames.  We don't want to strip the whole car here to see where else
> it may be cracked -- so we are done with that car and our weekend is now in
> the hands of the Pantera.
>
>
>
> Asa Jay will keep you all posted!!
>
>
>
> And, as always - thanks for all your support over the years -- and keep it
> coming.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>
> *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
>
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>
> Direct: 480-442-0297
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:28 PM Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <
> tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
>
> I am here “learning” and not giving any advice.  Steve’s son Tony is
> awesome at this stuff.  He’s making all the measurements and calculating
> the changes.  I’m just wrenching when I can.  😁
>
>
>
> Asa  Jay
>
> Sent via radio waves
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2024, at 15:12, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Having them and knowing how to use them can be an art form.
>
> Got to learn weight jacking with the fuel tank and driver leaning on the
> left rear leaving the right front light, and your going left at Daytona
> which is also working against you. Look at how they construct a Modified
> oval racer, or NASCAR builds a totally different chassis for left handed
> ovals. You have your work cut out for you, maybe try 800 pound RH springs
> and 600 pound LH springs and see how that feels.
>
>
>
> Sometimes weight jacking becomes a little more obvious to make the Pantera
> work, like in the photo attached
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *TPR <tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of Asa Jay
> Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> *Reply-To: *Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, October 31, 2024 at 11:29 AM
> *To: *David Carpenter via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> *Cc: *Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [TPR] HSR
>
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