[TPR] Wideband O2, A/F datalogging

Tue Mar 18 07:47:04 PDT 2014

I’m too embarrassed and humbled to reply to these comments.

Bless you my children.

Mike Trusty Engineering

15119 Gorgeous View Trail

Little Rock, AR  72210

501-224-9013

From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:28 AM
To: Mad Dog Antenucci
Cc: Asa Jay Laughton; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Subject: Re: [TPR] Wideband O2, A/F datalogging

Damn... there ya' go... spoiling it for me.

Yes, that's true. 

However, I will state that although he recommended and talked me through some things, actually having done it is where you learn the hard way and you remember it. 

My best/worst sob story is a bad harness from the vendor. It took me three months of depression, anger and constant phone calls to Mike and the vendor and the only way I figured it out was when Mike sent me another ECU and it did the same.

I got mad while sitting in the driver's seat, reached over and picked the ECU up off the floor while the engine was running and POP, BANG, it died.

Set the ECU back on the floor, fired the engine up again and it ran fine. Picked up the ECU and BANG, it died again.

Hah! Turned out to be a loose connection to a pin in the harness plug to the ECU. 

OK, I was happy that I found the problem, but I was NOT happy having to rewire the whole damned thing again.

The vendor replaced the harness and it's been working fine ever since.

OK, down off my soapbox.... and back to work.

Kirby

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com <mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com> > wrote:

Okay maybe Kirby is a lower case god but everything he learned he learned from Mike. ;-)

On , Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com <mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com> > wrote:

Thats right Junior. Far as I am concerned Mike is a GOD.

On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:50 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com> > wrote:

Awesome feedback already this morning.  In addition to a couple folks who emailed me directly here are the Pantera -drivers- who have recommended the Innovate system from real experience:

- Kirby Schrader
- Mike Trusty
- SOBill Taylor
- John Christian

That is a good enough sample quantity and testimony for me.
Thank you everyone. :)

Asa  Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 3/18/2014 4:47 AM, Kirby Schrader wrote: 

Indeed. as Mike says, they do trade-ins. 

I traded in my LM-1 and got the LM-2.

Kirby

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Mike Trusty <miketrusty at msn.com <mailto:miketrusty at msn.com> > wrote:

The "innovate" systems that Kirby has mentioned are the same as I use and in
my opinion the best.  Great company to work with.  On occasion when a newer
version of their equipment comes out they will offer a trade-in deal to
upgrade which I have used a couple of times.

Mike Trusty Engineering
15119 Gorgeous View Trail
Little Rock, AR  72210
501-224-9013

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From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com <mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com> ] On Behalf Of Kirby
Schrader
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:35 AM
To: Asa Jay Laughton
Cc: tpr at teampanteraracing.com <mailto:tpr at teampanteraracing.com> 
Subject: Re: [TPR] Wideband O2, A/F datalogging

Asa Jay,

I highly recommend the Innovate system.
I have an LC1 on the Pantera and the GT40 permanently mounted.
I have the LM2 as a general use anywhere setup.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php
It will datalog.

Hope that helps.

Kirby

On Mar 17, 2014, at 23:52, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com> > wrote:

> Hi gang,
> This is probably a question for Mike Trusty.  I'm specifically looking
> for anyone having experience they can share with regard to datalogging
> Air/Fuel ratio meters.  I really want to get an idea of what my carb
> is doing on the Pantera.
>
> I am currently looking at two alternatives and would like to hear
> about others.  If you have experience with either of these, or some
> other model, please let me know.
>
> AEM 30-4900 Failsafe Gauge;
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZAQLF6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=
> UTF8&colid=XG1XBD24T1KI&coliid=I141TWJE66ONZ7
>
> This gauge comes with the O2 sensor and weld-in bung.  It can also
> take an RPM signal input and datalog the A/F and RPM for up to three
> hours, then hook to a computer for offloading the data.
>
> The other system I'm looking at is by Innovate:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009AP975A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding
> =UTF8&colid=XG1XBD24T1KI&coliid=ITGCF2BWB5VMV
> The gauge comes with the O2 sensor and weld-i bung.  It is capable of
> hooking to a computer but it does not have datalogging capability.  To
> get that, I need to add one of these:
> http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-3875-Pocket-Logger/dp/B009Q
> XCYOM/ref=pd_sbs_auto_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=01A93K53JV7N1BM0EWF9
>
> It also does not take in RPM, to get that I need to add one of these:
> http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-3742-Multi-Sensor-Datalogge
> r/dp/B000CO7TW6/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1395028751&sr=8-5&
> keywords=innovate+dl
>
> But I don't need to for just the A/F.  My -objective- is to measure
> A/F and datalog it while driving in a variety of gears and rpm levels.
> To really map it properly I should also map RPM against the A/F.  I
> can probably do that with just the Innovate gauge package and a laptop
> on the passenger seat; however, datalogging it without the laptop
> might be nicer.
>
> If you have experience, please share.
> Thank you,
> Asa  Jay
>
> --
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