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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m too embarrassed and humbled to reply to these comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bless you my children.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike Trusty Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>15119 Gorgeous View Trail<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Little Rock, AR 72210<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>501-224-9013<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirby Schrader<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mad Dog Antenucci<br><b>Cc:</b> Asa Jay Laughton; tpr@teampanteraracing.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] Wideband O2, A/F datalogging<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Damn... there ya' go... spoiling it for me.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, that's true. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>However, I will state that although he recommended and talked me through some things, actually having done it is where you learn the hard way and you remember it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My best/worst sob story is a bad harness from the vendor. It took me three months of depression, anger and constant phone calls to Mike and the vendor and the only way I figured it out was when Mike sent me another ECU and it did the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I got mad while sitting in the driver's seat, reached over and picked the ECU up off the floor while the engine was running and POP, BANG, it died.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Set the ECU back on the floor, fired the engine up again and it ran fine. Picked up the ECU and BANG, it died again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hah! Turned out to be a loose connection to a pin in the harness plug to the ECU. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OK, I was happy that I found the problem, but I was NOT happy having to rewire the whole damned thing again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The vendor replaced the harness and it's been working fine ever since.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OK, down off my soapbox.... and back to work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kirby<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mad Dog Antenucci <<a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Okay maybe Kirby is a lower case god but everything he learned he learned from Mike. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On , Mad Dog Antenucci <<a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thats right Junior. Far as I am concerned Mike is a GOD.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:50 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <<a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank">asajay@asajay.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Awesome feedback already this morning. In addition to a couple folks who emailed me directly here are the Pantera -drivers- who have recommended the Innovate system from real experience:<br><br>- Kirby Schrader<br>- Mike Trusty<br>- SOBill Taylor<br>- John Christian<br><br>That is a good enough sample quantity and testimony for me.<br>Thank you everyone. :)<br><br>Asa Jay<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>& Shelley Marie<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Spokane, WA<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>****************************** <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com/" target="_blank">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/" target="_blank">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism" target="_blank">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>On 3/18/2014 4:47 AM, Kirby Schrader wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Indeed. as Mike says, they do trade-ins. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I traded in my LM-1 and got the LM-2.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Kirby<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Mike Trusty <<a href="mailto:miketrusty@msn.com" target="_blank">miketrusty@msn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>The "innovate" systems that Kirby has mentioned are the same as I use and in<br>my opinion the best. Great company to work with. On occasion when a newer<br>version of their equipment comes out they will offer a trade-in deal to<br>upgrade which I have used a couple of times.<br><br>Mike Trusty Engineering<br>15119 Gorgeous View Trail<br>Little Rock, AR 72210<br>501-224-9013<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: TPR [mailto:<a href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>] On Behalf Of Kirby<br>Schrader<br>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:35 AM<br>To: Asa Jay Laughton<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [TPR] Wideband O2, A/F datalogging<br><br>Asa Jay,<br><br>I highly recommend the Innovate system.<br>I have an LC1 on the Pantera and the GT40 permanently mounted.<br>I have the LM2 as a general use anywhere setup.<br><a href="http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php" target="_blank">http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php</a><br>It will datalog.<br><br>Hope that helps.<br><br>Kirby<br><br><br><br>On Mar 17, 2014, at 23:52, Asa Jay Laughton <<a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank">asajay@asajay.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi gang,<br>> This is probably a question for Mike Trusty. I'm specifically looking<br>> for anyone having experience they can share with regard to datalogging<br>> Air/Fuel ratio meters. I really want to get an idea of what my carb<br>> is doing on the Pantera.<br>><br>> I am currently looking at two alternatives and would like to hear<br>> about others. If you have experience with either of these, or some<br>> other model, please let me know.<br>><br>> AEM 30-4900 Failsafe Gauge;<br>> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZAQLF6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZAQLF6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=</a><br>> UTF8&colid=XG1XBD24T1KI&coliid=I141TWJE66ONZ7<br>><br>> This gauge comes with the O2 sensor and weld-in bung. It can also<br>> take an RPM signal input and datalog the A/F and RPM for up to three<br>> hours, then hook to a computer for offloading the data.<br>><br>> The other system I'm looking at is by Innovate:<br>> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009AP975A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009AP975A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding</a><br>> =UTF8&colid=XG1XBD24T1KI&coliid=ITGCF2BWB5VMV<br>> The gauge comes with the O2 sensor and weld-i bung. It is capable of<br>> hooking to a computer but it does not have datalogging capability. To<br>> get that, I need to add one of these:<br>> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-3875-Pocket-Logger/dp/B009Q" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-3875-Pocket-Logger/dp/B009Q</a><br>> XCYOM/ref=pd_sbs_auto_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=01A93K53JV7N1BM0EWF9<br>><br>> It also does not take in RPM, to get that I need to add one of these:<br>> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-3742-Multi-Sensor-Datalogge" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-3742-Multi-Sensor-Datalogge</a><br>> r/dp/B000CO7TW6/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1395028751&sr=8-5&<br>> keywords=innovate+dl<br>><br>> But I don't need to for just the A/F. My -objective- is to measure<br>> A/F and datalog it while driving in a variety of gears and rpm levels.<br>> To really map it properly I should also map RPM against the A/F. I<br>> can probably do that with just the Innovate gauge package and a laptop<br>> on the passenger seat; however, datalogging it without the laptop<br>> might be nicer.<br>><br>> If you have experience, please share.<br>> Thank you,<br>> Asa Jay<br>><br>> --<br>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA<br>> ******************************<br>> <a href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com/" target="_blank">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><br>> <a href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/" target="_blank">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><br>> <a href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism" target="_blank">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</a><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> TPR mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:TPR@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">TPR@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>> <a href="http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.co" target="_blank">http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.co</a><br>> m<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>TPR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TPR@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">TPR@teampanteraracing.com</a><br><a href="http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________ TPR mailing list <a href="mailto:TPR@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">TPR@teampanteraracing.com</a> <a href="http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com/" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6708 - Release Date: 03/17/14<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________<br>TPR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TPR@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">TPR@teampanteraracing.com</a><br><a href="http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>TPR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TPR@teampanteraracing.com">TPR@teampanteraracing.com</a><br><a href="http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank">http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>