[TPR] Bent a push rod???
Teampantera
teampantera at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 22 11:51:51 PDT 2012
THANKS bro'....I am just the dumb ass star driver. And I am not allowed to touch anything in the engine ;-)
so I will wait for my head wrench to show up and dignose what the problem is... although I have to admit this is not my first experience bending perfectly good parts.........just been lucky with Russ that nothing has broke in 6 years but better to break it here then 7 miles into Silver State...perhaps an opportunity to have Russ build a race engine that makes 700+ Hp...yea everything happens for a.reason...yea right HAHAHA
David in Durango <adin at frontier.net> wrote:
>Poo, that's bad news! I have a set of 3/8" 8.4 long used pushrods and guide
>plates if you can use them.
>
>Neighbors? If they keep me up at night, they get up when I do.
>
>If you had one more fat old man drinking beer, this wouldn't happen . . . .
>
>Keep us posted?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Teampantera" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>To: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>; <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:24 PM
>Subject: [TPR] Bent a push rod???
>
>
>> Ever have one of those days where you wish you had NOT got out of bed?
>>
>> Larry 'the Falcon' came over Saturday and we worked on the Pantera 3-4
>> hours....okay we just backed it out of the garage, started it and then
>> drank beer and leered at neighbor women walking by in inappropriate
>> short-shorts, answering tech questions about how fast the Pantera really
>> was....you know where I answer,
>>
>> "With me driving or Mario Andretti driving?"
>>
>> Anyway on to Sunday....I wake up @ 4AM and can't fall back asleep and
>> immediately realize in horror that I am sleeping with my mom so I got up
>> quickly, got dressed and went out to the garage. I waited until I was
>> certain the neighbors were awake (5:30AM) and started ItBWild and headed
>> the 5 miles to PCH (Hwy 1) headed south towards San Diego when I heard
>> then saw in my rear view mirror a beat up 66 Chevy Nova....he passed me
>> near Laguna Beach and I stayed behind him onto the Laguna Canyon road
>> which twists back up to I-405. When I had a spot to pass him I downshifted
>> and hit the throttle blowing by him (yea he let me) but as I went around
>> him and lifted on throttle I heard some noise like a lifter..
>> GAAAAAAAW
>>
>> I threw it in neutral and pulled over and shut down..the guy inthe Nova
>> behind me....we looked for any fluid loss and after about 5 minutes I
>> restarted and hearing the knocking immediiately shut down again ( yea I
>> had good oil pressure). Called AAA and got a flatbed coming to pick me up
>>
>> In meantime the Nova hot rod owner and I share some history...he is
>> running a built 396 and said he had it on rolllers and that it made 400 hp
>> at rear wheels...in meantime tow flatbed shows up and brings Pantera back
>> home.....now its 8am and neighbors are gawking and sneering that look of
>> "THATS WOT YOU DEAERVE FOR WAKING US UP!"
>>
>> Will pull valve covers and get Dick Drenske over this afternoon for
>> 'damage assessment'
>>
>> Yea may have over revved but was supposed to have had rev limitor set at
>> 6300 too so not sure yet what happened.
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>
>>>At the risk of inviting more advice that will prolong this agony...
>>>
>>>Here are the photos of the Plastigage results:
>>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5416
>>>
>>>I'm off to Napa to buy some gaskets.
>>>Asa Jay
>>>
>>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>& Shelley Marie
>>>Spokane, WA
>>>******************************
>>>http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
>>>
>>>On 7/21/2012 10:32 AM, David in Durango wrote:
>>>> OR (probably not recommended?)
>>>> One could think that .003 is very close to .0028 and call that close
>>>> enough
>>>> with a HV oil pump (or not).
>>>>
>>>> Seems a hill billy approach? if the crank is already .010 under I'd
>>>> think
>>>> about not turning it to .020 - but that's my personal hangup.
>>>>
>>>> Time for a Baconater and a Modelo Especial . . . . We don't want any
>>>> egg
>>>> shaped main jounals!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>
>>>> To:<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Asa's Engine rebuild update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>> JB, any opinion on the use of shim stock to tighten up the tolerance on
>>>>> the main bearings?
>>>>>
>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>
>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>> ******************************
>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/20/2012 8:29 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>>>>> Not much done tonight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Reviewed the Plastigage. 0.003 clearance on all mains. Spec calls
>>>>>> for 0.001-0.0015 Desired, with 0.0028 being max allowable. Sounds
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> I should probably shim and can get it from Napa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alrighty then, it's been over 25 years since I shimmed a crank. I've
>>>>>> lost the knowledge, but know it can be done. I'm looking for expert
>>>>>> pointers on this... Russ???
>>>>>> - Shim both bearing halves or just one?
>>>>>> - How?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Took inventory of gaskets. Need intake, front cover, oil pan, front
>>>>>> main seal, one head gasket (will probably buy two just for good
>>>>>> measure). Rest of rod bearings did -not- show up today (darnit).
>>>>>> Break-in oil did though. I also have three bottles of assembly lube,
>>>>>> will use it liberally on all parts, mains, rods, cylinders, cam,
>>>>>> lifters, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gotta get'er done.
>>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/2012 6:41 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh, you're way ahead of me... :) I'll have to move fast to catch
>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/19/2012 9:44 PM, David wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, dang. Asa Jay may(?) catch and pass me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since the lift debacle: flywheel installed, clutch installed, ZF
>>>>>>>> mated
>>>>>>>> to Cleveland (never thought I'd see that again, balance point
>>>>>>>> determined ( pulled the ZF separately - not recommended).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still plenty to do before the stab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Cleaned the crank with a 0.22 caliber boresnake. No residue.
>>>>>>>>> Blew
>>>>>>>>> out with compressed air.
>>>>>>>>> - Honed the cylinders, put a pretty good cross-hatch in there
>>>>>>>>> (amazing
>>>>>>>>> how smooth and shiny the cylinders actually were before honing.)
>>>>>>>>> - Cleaned, scrubbed the block with clean rags, brushes where
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>> and blew out with compressed air.
>>>>>>>>> - Placed main bearings -dry-, with crank and Plastigage. Torqued
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> spec using ARP assembly lube. Will let sit overnight and check
>>>>>>>>> readings
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Waiting on balance of rod bearings.
>>>>>>>>> - Will probably assembly new rings to pistons tomorrow but may need
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> hold off piston insertion until rod bearings arrive.
>>>>>>>>> - May be able to install cam/lifters and spring/spider assembly
>>>>>>>>> (holds
>>>>>>>>> the roller lifters in place) this weekend.
>>>>>>>>> - May be able to assemble timing gear set (Pete Jackson quiet gear
>>>>>>>>> drive) and front cover too. We'll see how it goes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - I should really pull the radiator this weekend too, in order to
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> how bad it is or isn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everybody check your harnesses. The set Mad Dawg gave me a few
>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>> ago have now expired (was expected) so I need at least one new.
>>>>>>>>> Helmet
>>>>>>>>> is still good, SA 2010.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still need tires, waiting for budget to replenish. A little closer
>>>>>>>>> though... sold an old set of ARE wheels I used to run on the Mach
>>>>>>>>> I...
>>>>>>>>> since the Campy's look so much nicer on it now. :) ... and can
>>>>>>>>> runner
>>>>>>>>> a wider tire on the rear! Hoo rah!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Photo uploads much later... trying to concentrate on the actual
>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> still taking photos.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>>>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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