[TPR] Bent a push rod???

David in Durango adin at frontier.net
Sun Jul 22 11:35:57 PDT 2012 

Poo, that's bad news!  I have a set of 3/8" 8.4 long used pushrods and guide 
plates if you can use them.

Neighbors?  If they keep me up at night, they get up when I do.

If you had one more fat old man drinking beer, this wouldn't happen . . . .

Keep us posted?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Teampantera" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>; <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:24 PM
Subject: [TPR] Bent a push rod???


> Ever have one of those days where you wish you had NOT got out of bed?
>
> Larry 'the Falcon' came over Saturday and we worked on the Pantera 3-4 
> hours....okay we just backed it out of the garage, started it and then 
> drank beer and leered at neighbor women walking by in inappropriate 
> short-shorts, answering tech questions about how fast the Pantera really 
> was....you know where I answer,
>
> "With me driving or Mario Andretti driving?"
>
> Anyway on to Sunday....I wake up @ 4AM and can't fall back asleep and 
> immediately realize in horror that  I am sleeping with my mom so I got up 
> quickly, got dressed and went out to the garage. I waited until I was 
> certain the neighbors were awake (5:30AM) and started ItBWild and headed 
> the 5 miles to PCH (Hwy 1) headed south towards San Diego when I heard 
> then saw in my rear view mirror a beat up 66 Chevy Nova....he passed me 
> near Laguna Beach and I stayed behind him onto the Laguna Canyon road 
> which twists back up to I-405. When I had a spot to pass him I downshifted 
> and hit the throttle blowing by him (yea he let me) but as I went around 
> him and lifted on throttle I heard some noise like a lifter..
> GAAAAAAAW
>
> I threw it in neutral and pulled over and shut down..the guy inthe Nova 
> behind me....we looked for any fluid loss and after about 5 minutes I 
> restarted and hearing the knocking immediiately shut down again ( yea I 
> had good oil pressure).  Called AAA and got a flatbed coming to pick me up
>
> In meantime the Nova hot rod owner and I share some history...he is 
> running a built 396 and said he had it on rolllers and that it made 400 hp 
> at rear wheels...in meantime tow flatbed shows up and brings Pantera back 
> home.....now its 8am and neighbors are gawking and sneering that look of
> "THATS WOT YOU DEAERVE FOR WAKING US UP!"
>
> Will pull valve covers and get Dick Drenske over this afternoon for 
> 'damage assessment'
>
> Yea may have over revved but was supposed to have had rev limitor set at 
> 6300 too so not sure yet what happened.
>
> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
>>At the risk of inviting more advice that will prolong this agony...
>>
>>Here are the photos of the Plastigage results:
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5416
>>
>>I'm off to Napa to buy some gaskets.
>>Asa Jay
>>
>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>&  Shelley Marie
>>Spokane, WA
>>******************************
>>http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>
>>
>>On 7/21/2012 10:32 AM, David in Durango wrote:
>>> OR (probably not recommended?)
>>> One could think that .003 is very close to .0028 and call that close 
>>> enough
>>> with a HV oil pump (or not).
>>>
>>> Seems a hill billy approach?  if the crank is already .010 under I'd 
>>> think
>>> about not turning it to .020 - but that's my personal hangup.
>>>
>>> Time for a Baconater and a Modelo Especial . . . .   We don't want any 
>>> egg
>>> shaped main jounals!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>
>>> To:<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Asa's Engine rebuild update
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyone?
>>>> JB, any opinion on the use of shim stock to tighten up the tolerance on
>>>> the main bearings?
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> &   Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>> ******************************
>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2012 8:29 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>>>> Not much done tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Reviewed the Plastigage.  0.003 clearance on all mains.  Spec calls
>>>>> for 0.001-0.0015 Desired, with 0.0028 being max allowable.  Sounds 
>>>>> like
>>>>> I should probably shim and can get it from Napa.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alrighty then, it's been over 25 years since I shimmed a crank.  I've
>>>>> lost the knowledge, but know it can be done.  I'm looking for expert
>>>>> pointers on this... Russ???
>>>>> - Shim both bearing halves or just one?
>>>>> - How?
>>>>>
>>>>> Took inventory of gaskets.  Need intake, front cover, oil pan, front
>>>>> main seal, one head gasket (will probably buy two just for good
>>>>> measure).  Rest of rod bearings did -not- show up today (darnit).
>>>>> Break-in oil did though.  I also have three bottles of assembly lube,
>>>>> will use it liberally on all parts, mains, rods, cylinders, cam,
>>>>> lifters, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gotta get'er done.
>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>
>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>> &    Shelley Marie
>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>> ******************************
>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/20/2012 6:41 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>>>>> Oh, you're way ahead of me... :)   I'll have to move fast to catch 
>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>> &     Shelley Marie
>>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/19/2012 9:44 PM, David wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, dang. Asa Jay may(?) catch and pass me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the lift debacle: flywheel installed, clutch installed, ZF 
>>>>>>> mated
>>>>>>> to Cleveland (never thought I'd see that again, balance point
>>>>>>> determined ( pulled the ZF separately - not recommended).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still plenty to do before the stab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Cleaned the crank with a 0.22 caliber boresnake.  No residue. 
>>>>>>>> Blew
>>>>>>>> out with compressed air.
>>>>>>>> - Honed the cylinders, put a pretty good cross-hatch in there 
>>>>>>>> (amazing
>>>>>>>> how smooth and shiny the cylinders actually were before honing.)
>>>>>>>> - Cleaned, scrubbed the block with clean rags, brushes where 
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>> and blew out with compressed air.
>>>>>>>> - Placed main bearings -dry-, with crank and Plastigage.  Torqued 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> spec using ARP assembly lube.  Will let sit overnight and check
>>>>>>>> readings
>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Waiting on balance of rod bearings.
>>>>>>>> - Will probably assembly new rings to pistons tomorrow but may need 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> hold off piston insertion until rod bearings arrive.
>>>>>>>> - May be able to install cam/lifters and spring/spider assembly 
>>>>>>>> (holds
>>>>>>>> the roller lifters in place) this weekend.
>>>>>>>> - May be able to assemble timing gear set (Pete Jackson quiet gear
>>>>>>>> drive) and front cover too.  We'll see how it goes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - I should really pull the radiator this weekend too, in order to 
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> how bad it is or isn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everybody check your harnesses.  The set Mad Dawg gave me a few 
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> ago have now expired (was expected) so I need at least one new.
>>>>>>>> Helmet
>>>>>>>> is still good, SA 2010.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still need tires, waiting for budget to replenish.  A little closer
>>>>>>>> though... sold an old set of ARE wheels I used to run on the Mach 
>>>>>>>> I...
>>>>>>>> since the Campy's look so much nicer on it now.  :)  ... and can
>>>>>>>> runner
>>>>>>>> a wider tire on the rear!  Hoo rah!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Photo uploads much later... trying to concentrate on the actual 
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> still taking photos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>>>> &      Shelley Marie
>>>>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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