[TPR] Oil weight opinions
Mad Dog Antenucci
teampantera at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 21 10:59:33 PDT 2012
Ohhhh you should have never telegraphed that move Irish.....I am gonna stock up on CATERPILLAR TRACTOR decals
________________________________
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
Better come prepared buddy, with a lot of helpers if you want to stay ahead of the team that'll do it -again- this year, when nobody's watching. >:)
<insert evil laugh here>
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
****************************** http://www.racingagainstautism.com http://www.teampanteraracing.com http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
On 8/21/2012 3:57 AM, Steven Donegan wrote:
Hmmm, maybe I should repeat a prank the dog did with a different twist - go around to all the Pantera's with Team Invaders and Amsoil decals :-)
>
>____________
>Steven Donegan
>SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
>www.sscc.us
>
>
>
>From: Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:24 AM
>Subject: Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
>
>
>Royal Purple were not one of the 2011 sponsors but the president of the company like K&N and Ultima who have been long time sponsors have been pretty generous with give aways in past...I think (?) JB besides the free oil also got FREE battery too. JB, was that you? I got a couple K&N filters for my IR-EFIs which retail for about $50 bucks a piece which was cool....since you will be going to Vegas first all the sponsors will be there soaking up media/mag coverage...just in case Royal Purple shows up dont get caught wearing your AMSOIL DEALER tshirt ;-)
>Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>No it's not free. :)
>>I've been using Amsoil in all our rigs now for a few years. I used to
>>be a dealer 25 years ago, but dropped it some time
back. After nuking
>>the old engine in the Mach I (the really old engine
I rebuilt 25 years
>>ago)[1], and reading everything about the lack of ZDDP in modern oils, I
>>switched back to Amsoil.
>>
>>Yes, I wish it were free, but trying to find a
sponsoring dealer might
>>be a bit tricky. Does Steve get -his- for free? I
guess you could say
>>I'm sponsoring myself in that regard. :)
>>
>>Asa Jay
>>[1] I believe the largest contributing factor to
nuking the Mach I
>>engine was using "modern" SL grade engine oils with hardly any ZDDP.
>>
>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>& Shelley Marie
>>Spokane, WA
>>******************************
>>http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>
>>
>>On 8/20/2012 8:54 PM, Teampantera wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it free? ;-)
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >All,
>>> >In addition to the public replies, I
received a few private ones as
>>> >well. I'd like to thank everyone for their
input, I consider it
>>> valuable.
>>> >
>>> >The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I
wouldn't expect it to have
>>> >the same kind of tight tolerances a modern
engine would have. The
>>> >majority of clearances on the rebuild came
out to within factory specs,
>>> >but not necessarily on the "tight" side.
Therefore running something
>>> >that would work well in a modern tight
engine may not be the best. That
>>> >removed the 5W-20 from the list.
>>> >
>>> >The engine is using a hydraulic roller
camshaft, with full roller
>>> >rockers (fulcrums and tips).
>>> >The break-in oil I have is -supposedly-
high in ZDDP. The Amsoil
>>> >product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries there.
>>> >
>>> >My choice based on non-forum feedback as
well as the advice here, is the
>>> >15W-50 product, here:
>>> >http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx
>>> >
>>> >Thanks everyone, :)
>>> >Asa Jay
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> >& Shelley Marie
>>> >Spokane, WA
>>> >******************************
>>> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> >http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
>>> >> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or
track since I know the oil is
>>> >> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for
>>> >> around town. There is no "right"
answer to this though as there are
>>> >> many opinions.
>>> >>
>>> >> JB
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> *From:* Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>>> >> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36
PM
>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight
opinions
>>> >>
>>> >> Consensus?
>>> >> AMSOIL sponsoring you?
>>> >>
>>> >> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in Newsletter in last
>>> >> few months.
>>> >>
>>> >> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver State I just stole
>>> >> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is
too much money in my humble
>>> opinion.
>>> >>
>>> >> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal purple, etc and I
>>> >> know you and others are loyal users
but my feedback from some pro
>>> >> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get sponsored FREE motor oil or
>>> >> are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any
quality motor oil is fine.
>>> >>
>>> >> After my initial break in I did use
Mobil One for awhile but went
>>> >> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I found a case in back of
>>> >> the garage I forgot.
>>> >>
>>> >> I change it after averyorr or track event. Yea I read there is some
>>> >> advantage to using a oil with a high zddp content but why pay
>>> >> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it worth 6-9 bucks a
>>> >> quart?
>>> >>
>>> >> Only if you think so ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >All,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I'll be running a break-in oil in
the Pantera for the next few
>>> weeks as
>>> >> >I put as many miles on her as
possible.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >After that I'll switch to the
permanent oil. Here are the options I'm
>>> >> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:
>>> >> > 5W-20
>>> >> > 10W-30
>>> >> > 15W-50
>>> >> >
>>> >> >What would the expert consensus
be? (I already know what I'd
>>> like, but
>>> >> >I'm looking for alternate opinions
which could change my mind)
>>> >> >Asa Jay
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> >> >& Shelley Marie
>>> >> >Spokane, WA
>>> >> >******************************
>>> >> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> >> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> >> >http
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
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>>> All,
>>> In addition to the public replies, I received a
few private ones as
>>> well. I'd like to thank everyone for their
input, I consider it valuable.
>>>
>>> The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I
wouldn't expect it to have
>>> the same kind of tight tolerances a modern
engine would have. The
>>> majority of clearances on the rebuild came out
to within factory
>>> specs, but not necessarily on the "tight"
side. Therefore running
>>> something that would work well in a modern
tight engine may not be the
>>> best. That removed the 5W-20 from the list.
>>>
>>> The engine is using a hydraulic roller
camshaft, with full roller
>>> rockers (fulcrums and tips).
>>> The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The Amsoil
>>> product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries there.
>>>
>>> My choice based on non-forum feedback as well
as the advice here, is
>>> the 15W-50 product, here:
>>> http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone, :)
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> & Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>> ******************************
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
>>> On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
>>>> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or
track since I know the oil is
>>>> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for
>>>> around town. There is no "right" answer to
this though as there are
>>>> many opinions.
>>>>
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>>>> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
>>>>
>>>> Consensus?
>>>> AMSOIL sponsoring you?
>>>>
>>>> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in Newsletter in
>>>> last few months.
>>>>
>>>> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver State I just stole
>>>> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too
much money in my humble
>>>> opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal purple, etc and I
>>>> know you and others are loyal users but my
feedback from some pro
>>>> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get sponsored FREE motor oil
>>>> or are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any
quality motor oil is fine.
>>>>
>>>> After my initial break in I did use Mobil
One for awhile but went
>>>> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I found a case in back
>>>> of the garage I forgot.
>>>>
>>>> I change it after averyorr or track event. Yea I read there is
>>>> some advantage to using a oil with a high zddp content but why pay
>>>> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it worth 6-9 bucks a
>>>> quart?
>>>>
>>>> Only if you think so ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >All,
>>>> >
>>>> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera for the next few weeks as
>>>> >I put as many miles on her as possible.
>>>> >
>>>> >After that I'll switch to the permanent
oil. Here are the options I'm
>>>> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:
>>>> > 5W-20
>>>> > 10W-30
>>>> > 15W-50
>>>> >
>>>> >What would the expert consensus be? (I
already know what I'd like, but
>>>> >I'm looking for alternate opinions
which could change my mind)
>>>> >Asa Jay
>>>> >
>>>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> >& Shelley Marie
>>>> >Spokane, WA
>>>> >******************************
>>>> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>> >http
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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>
>No it's not free. :)
>I've been using Amsoil in all our rigs now for a few years. I used to be a dealer 25 years ago, but dropped it some time back. After nuking the old engine in the Mach I (the really old engine I rebuilt 25 years ago)[1], and reading everything about the lack of ZDDP in modern oils, I switched back to Amsoil.
>
>Yes, I wish it were free, but trying to find a
sponsoring dealer might be a bit tricky. Does Steve get
-his- for free? I guess you could say I'm sponsoring
myself in that regard. :)
>
>Asa Jay
>[1] I believe the largest contributing factor to nuking
the Mach I engine was using "modern" SL grade engine oils with hardly any ZDDP.
>
>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
****************************** http://www.racingagainstautism.com/ http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>On 8/20/2012 8:54 PM, Teampantera wrote:
>Is it free? ;-)
>>Asa Jay Laughton mailto:asajay at asajay.com wrote:
>>>All,
>>>In addition to the public replies, I received a
few private ones as
>>>well. I'd like to thank everyone for their
input, I consider it valuable.
>>>
>>>The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I
wouldn't expect it to have
>>>the same kind of tight tolerances a modern
engine would have. The
>>>majority of clearances on the rebuild came out
to within factory specs,
>>>but not necessarily on the "tight" side.
Therefore running something
>>>that would work well in a modern tight engine
may not be the best. That
>>>removed the 5W-20 from the list.
>>>
>>>The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft,
with full roller
>>>rockers (fulcrums and tips).
>>>The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The Amsoil
>>>product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries there.
>>>
>>>My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as
the advice here, is the
>>>15W-50 product, here:
>>>http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx
>>>
>>>Thanks everyone, :)
>>>Asa Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>& Shelley Marie
>>>Spokane, WA
>>>******************************
>>>http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
>>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
>>>http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
>>>> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or
track since I know the oil is
>>>> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for
>>>> around town. There is no "right" answer to
this though as there are
>>>> many opinions.
>>>>
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Teampantera mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com
>>>> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton mailto:asajay at asajay.com; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
>>>>
>>>> Consensus?
>>>> AMSOIL sponsoring you?
>>>>
>>>> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in Newsletter in last
>>>> few months.
>>>>
>>>> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver State I just stole
>>>> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too
much money in my humble opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal purple, etc and I
>>>> know you and others are loyal users but my
feedback from some pro
>>>> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get sponsored FREE motor oil or
>>>> are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any
quality motor oil is fine.
>>>>
>>>> After my initial break in I did use Mobil
One for awhile but went
>>>> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I found a case in back of
>>>> the garage I forgot.
>>>>
>>>> I change it after averyorr or track event. Yea I read there is some
>>>> advantage to using a oil with a high zddp content but why pay
>>>> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it worth 6-9 bucks a
>>>> quart?
>>>>
>>>> Only if you think so ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com mailto:asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >All,
>>>> >
>>>> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera for the next few weeks as
>>>> >I put as many miles on her as possible.
>>>> >
>>>> >After that I'll switch to the permanent
oil. Here are the options I'm
>>>> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:
>>>> > 5W-20
>>>> > 10W-30
>>>> > 15W-50
>>>> >
>>>> >What would the expert consensus be? (I
already know what I'd like, but
>>>> >I'm looking for alternate opinions
which could change my mind)
>>>> >Asa Jay
>>>> >
>>>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> >& Shelley Marie
>>>> >Spokane, WA
>>>> >******************************
>>>> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
>>>> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
>>>> >http
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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>>
All,
>>In addition to the public replies, I received a few
private ones as well. I'd like to thank everyone for
their input, I consider it valuable.
>>
>>The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't
expect it to have the same kind of tight tolerances a
modern engine would have. The majority of clearances
on the rebuild came out to within factory specs, but
not necessarily on the "tight" side. Therefore
running something that would work well in a modern
tight engine may not be the best. That removed the
5W-20 from the list.
>>
>>The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft, with
full roller rockers (fulcrums and tips).
>>The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The Amsoil product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries there.
>>
>>My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as the
advice here, is the 15W-50 product, here:
>>http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx
>>
>>Thanks everyone, :)
>>Asa Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
****************************** http://www.racingagainstautism.com/ http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
>>I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track since I know the oil is gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for around town. There is no "right" answer to this though as there are many opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>JB
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Teampantera mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com
>>>To: Asa Jay Laughton mailto:asajay at asajay.com; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>>Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
>>>
>>>Consensus?
>>>AMSOIL sponsoring you?
>>>
>>>Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor
oils in Newsletter in last few months.
>>>
>>>When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at
Silver State I just stole his oil otherwise
that liquid gold is too much money in my
humble opinion.
>>>
>>>I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline,
royal purple, etc and I know you and others
are loyal users but my feedback from some pro
drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get
sponsored FREE motor oil or are turning 7,000
R's for an hour any quality motor oil is fine.
>>>
>>>After my initial break in I did use Mobil One
for awhile but went right back to Valvoline
VR1 race oil because I found a case in back of
the garage I forgot.
>>>
>>>I change it after avery orr or track event.
Yea I read there is some advantage to using
a oil with a high zddp content but why pay
the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but
is it worth 6-9 bucks a quart?
>>>
>>>Only if you think so ;-)
>>>
>>>Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>All,
>>>>
>>>>I'll be running a break-in oil in the
Pantera for the next few weeks as
>>>>I put as many miles on her as possible.
>>>>
>>>>After that I'll switch to the permanent
oil. Here are the options I'm
>>>>looking at, from Asmoil in weights:
>>>> 5W-20
>>>> 10W-30
>>>> 15W-50
>>>>
>>>>What would the expert consensus be? (I
already know what I'd like, but
>>>>I'm looking for alternate opinions which
could change my mind)
>>>>Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>& Shelley Marie
>>>>Spokane, WA
>>>>******************************
>>>>http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
>>>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
>>>>http
>>>>
>>>>
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