[TPR] rule change

[David Carpenter]

As Dad used to say:
'Consider the 'Source'!!!

& it's just little ole me!!!
Getting older & have time to pound a few keys!!!
Lololol
No matter what we build, no matter the science, no matter the actions, there is always a reaction.

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From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 9:55 AM
To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Cc: David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com>; Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] rule change

I knew he wouldn’t make it very long without wanting the harness bar.  I didn’t think he could keep talking himself out of it.

That’s an all-day job to install.  But I suppose it could be done in the parking lot of Hotel Nevada in the day prior to inspection.  That is -if- we bring all the right tools.  😉

Asa  Jay

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On May 3, 2023, at 07:38, Mad Dog Antenucci via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

 Thanks Dave for sharing with us. Remember there are no Corvettes in TPR…at least not yet haha!

Personally, I am just buying Paragons ‘harness bar kit’ which includes a steel front mounting plate and hardware to support a 5 point harness.

Again, in Touring Division no harness is required. And the NEW rule is while highly recommended a 5-point harness is not required either unless speeds exceed 160.

And yes I highly recommend the 5-point harness set up and roll bars ad well.

Dennis

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On Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 6:01 AM, David Carpenter via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

Great!!!  C8 & Devil MD Antinucci should be good to go!

Likely C8 same as any car seat I'd seen.  You can install 5 point, by slipping a piece of iron flat stock between front seat bolts.  (Raises seat just thickness of metal)  Same bolts, should be long enough.
Bolt 'Sub-strap' to center of flat stock.
(Do NOT use aluminum...not strong enough)

Or
A six point: no flat stock: Bolt each strap to each seat Bolt.
(I Advise either one, but prefer the 6 point)

Either way, just a 9/16" wrench is all ya need.

Attaching them when seated: only takes 30 seconds longer.
In a crash: EITHER....WHEN ADJUSTED CORRECTLY....can prevent you from 'Submarining' Under lap belt & keep you in seat. (ALWAYS causes severe internal abdominal injuries....especially spleen & liver....I KNOW people it happened too...& lucky they survived)

So not sure of your plan, ie...belts you have In Stock...or your desire....but cost is/was only slightly different.
I never removed 'Sub' belts on vettes.  Just tuck them under seat between races.

I was AGHAST @ several close friends that had belts on ENTIRELY WRONG!!!!
Like Don Davis & wife...& Cindy Vasquez!!!
I was very close to yelling @ them near Start line!!!!
Lap belt was WAY OFF LEGS/HIPS!!!  IT WAS Navel level or above!!
I gave them a 30 second lesson (piece of my mind!!!)  Told them Safety people have no idea....but that's Extremely Dangerous....Adjust the Sub belt SHORTER @ the other end!!  No time to do it now!!

Lap belt MUST be tightened first!!!  Hard!!  Keep it low on pelvic girdle!!
Sub belt can have a little play in it, but not much.
Tighten shoulder straps Last!!!

Not sure effect was good coming from just plain ole ME.....but coming from someone in UNL division....they took it deep to heart!!!

No matter what we build, no matter the science, no matter the actions, there is always a reaction.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 8:31:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [TPR] rule change

 FYI


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On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 10:17 AM, Frank McKinnon <car33 at att.net> wrote:

the 4 point will  be allowed untill anyone shows me  it will  not.  it is a fia approved  product.    i am told there is a video saying  it  only works on one impact.    and they said it is  not a   reliable  source .
it  will not be allowed  if you have provision  for  a sub strap in the seat.     thats will  be the  next  rule as  it  stands now.   Your life matters , please  take care of it

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On May 2, 2023, at 9:02 AM, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:


Thanks Frank…anything on 5-point harness being required for Grand Touring or Grand Sport?

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On May 2, 2023, at 8:58 AM, Frank McKinnon <car33 at att.net> wrote:





From: Frank McKinnon <car33 at att.net>
Date: May 1, 2023 at 6:03:51 PM
Subject: rule change

     A new  rule  pertaining to all
     vehicles entering and
     competing in  the  Nevada
     State Classic  Open Road
     Events.
      AUTOMOBILE  SPEED
      EVENTS  ARE EXTREMELY
      DANGEROUS.    THE DRIVER
      IS RESPONSIBLE  FOR THE
      CONDITION  AND SAFTEY
      OF  THE VEHIClLE  AND  THE
      CREW.
ALL OPEN VEHICLES MUST HAVE
A ROLL BAR  INSTALLED  AND A FULL ROLL CAGE IS HIGHLY
RECOMMENDED..
A  ROLL BAR  or FULL ROLE CAGE
IS HIGHlY RECOMENDED IN  ALL
SPEED CLASSES   AND  A FULL
ROLL CAGE IS MANDATORY IN
SPEED CLASSES  160  AND OVER

Frank McKinnon
    Race  Director SSCC

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