[TPR] 6-7 degrees Degrees Caster

Wed Apr 6 07:29:33 PDT 2022

Good points John. Will start at 5 and re-adjust to get it right.

Dennis

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> On Apr 5, 2022, at 7:28 PM, John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> caster is like anything else.  Some is great, too much, not so great.  I think 7 degrees is pretty aggressive for a non-power steering car and might not be as much fun around town as it is at 180 MPH.
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>> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 05:02:41 PM PDT, DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>> Awesome Mark on 6-7. Will have Asa and alignment shop go for that.
>> 🥳🥳🥳🥳
>> Thanks.
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>> Dennis & MD
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>>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, ehpantera via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>> Chuck, 
>> Right now I have 6.5 77 degrees of carter.  I'm happy with that..
>> Mark 
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Date: 4/5/22 9:00 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'ehpantera' <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>> Subject: RE: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC
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>> Dear Mark,
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>>                      I am sure that Johnny’s modified A arms are solid and well done.   Are you using any other methods to increase positive caster?    What is the current positive caster?
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>>                                Curious,  Chuck Engles
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>> From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of ehpantera via TPR
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 7:55 PM
>> To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI; Charles Engles via TPR
>> Subject: Re: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC
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>> I'm using Johnny Woods modified A arms and am happy with them. 
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>> Mark 
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>> -------- Original message --------
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>> From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
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>> Date: 4/4/22 7:17 PM (GMT-05:00)
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>> To: Charles Engles via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC
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>> Hi Doc….thanks…Yea I am definitely looking at both. Although I hear there is a better unit out there which Asa is looking at for me. 👍🏼
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>> Dennis
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>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Charles Engles via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>> Dear Dennis,
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>>                  How much positive caster do you have now?   I am keen to know if you will perceive a difference and improvement.
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>>                  I would note that our friend Tom Upton was running positive 5-7 degrees and he noted another bit of improvement with the SACC electric power steering unit.  If Tom recommends power steering with big positive castor, then it might be a consideration.
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>>                             Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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>> From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:39 PM
>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>> Subject: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC
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>> Afternoon TPR
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>> FWIW
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>> While I already purchased Johnny Woods modified A-Arms where I hope to get 5-7 degrees neg caster…..here is Larry’s mods where he got 4 to 4.5 neg caster.
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>> Dennis
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>> From: Larry Stock
>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 10:48 AM
>> To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI
>> Subject: Re: QUARTER WINDOW RUBBERS
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>> I got 4 & 4.5 degrees of caster with the offset bushings and shaving the upper front ball joint.
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>> 02001P
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>> PPC Front Upper Ball Joint Modified for + Caster
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>> 135.00
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>> I think the Pantera may want up to 6-9 degrees of front caster.
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>> Here are the A-Arm Sectioning and spacer photo’s I have you can work with.
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>> Do you have ASA’s Address handy?
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>> Larry Stock
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>> Pantera Parts Connection LC
>> 550 Mallory Way
>> Carson City NV 89701
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>> www.PanteraParts.com
>> PH  775-283-4411
>> Fax 775-283-4410
>> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
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>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
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>> I have both, I assume you probably want a good used one.
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>> Larry
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>> Regarding my Pantera underside downforce work, Here is an excerpt from
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>> https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/are-f1-and-nascar-manufacturing-drama/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_NA_EML_UN_SaturdayRoadTrip&hashed_email=fb1f43ec025e8215388f0ce0823a6e37e643701df67837453081ee2c33561ece
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>> For the first time since the 1980s, when F1 cars resembled upside-down airplanes, ground effects are utilized in the aero regulations for the new car. Its floor has two large channels running front-to-back. Air travels under the vehicle and through the Venturi-shaped channels, which creates an area of low pressure and “sucks” the car to the track. Since the underside of the car provides much of the grip, the need for air on the wings to generate downforce is reduced. 
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