[TPR] Asa's progress
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Fri Aug 14 09:44:11 PDT 2015
There's a good thought, an in-line valve to stop the flow and run the bowls dry. I like it.
Asa
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David <adin at frontier.net> wrote:
>Either electric pump or fuel valve so you can run the bowls dry (on purpose) - saves the butt clinch that happens when gas runs all over everything.
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>On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>I wouldn't mind changing them, its just a pain in the rear... Having to take the fuel bowls off, how to capture the gas coming out without spilling it all over, making a mess, etc. If you know an easy way to do it without making too much mess, I'm open to doing it.
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>I actually came this > < close to buying the special fuel bowls that would have let me change jets without removing the bowls, but I didn't. I need to save -some- money for entry fees. ;)
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>Asa Jay
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>mark skwarek via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>I'll bring my box of jets with me just incase you change your mind.
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>Currently I run 95's at sea level (still a bit rich) and go to 91's for the race.
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>Mark
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>On Friday, August 14, 2015 9:53 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>72 in front, 76 in rear, pretty much exactly what Holley shipped with a 3310-1. I did stumble on some other Holley jets while I was looking for other stuff in the last few days, but they are all much smaller, in the 60's. I think they came out of some other Ford carbs I've had in the past.
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>I don't plan on any jet changes honestly, too much work, though I do get what you are saying.
>Asa Jay
>Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** http://www.racingagainstautism.com http://www.teampanteraracing.com http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>On 8/14/2015 6:23 AM, mark skwarek via TPR wrote:
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>Glad to hear about your success. You might want to make sure your jets are for the higher altitude in Nevada.
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>Mark
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>On Friday, August 14, 2015 12:50 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
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>In my best Gene Wilder voice...
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>ALIVE!.... ALIVE!.... IT'S ALIVE!!!
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>I forgot to grab the extra bits I needed on the way home, so after
>dinner it was back to Napa and then to Autozone to get the fittings for
>the fuel and vacuum. Done deal, I picked up the brass fuel fittings
>from Napa though I had to do a two-piece kludge to get 90* and the size
>I wanted for the fuel line; at Autozone I picked up a large variety pack
>of vacuum fittings and a large variety pack of vacuum plugs.
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>Once home, I fit the 90* fitting onto the fuel log, an appropriate size
>vacuum fitting on the ported vacuum port and set about final float
>adjustments.
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>I'm beginning to love this little hand-held vacuum pump. It came with a
>reservoir so you can either suck fluid without getting it into the pump,
>or push fluid out in a neat manner. With that in mind, I used the pump
>to get some gas out of Shelley's Jeep (don't tell her that). I then
>reversed the pump, attached it to the fuel log of the Holley and started
>pumping.
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>With the sight plugs removed, I could see the floats rising until they
>stopped. They both stopped short of the sight holes so I raised them
>each about a quarter to half turn. I'm sure glad I did this on the
>bench and not on the car... those center-hung fuel adjusters for the
>needle and seat can leak like a mother when you loosen the screw to
>adjust the nut. Good grief!
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>Once the floats were adjusted I installed the sight plugs and put the
>carb on the engine. I snugged everything down, routed the fuel lines,
>vacuum lines, attached linkage and the 12V feed to the choke. After
>installing the air cleaner, I pulled the Halon fire extinguisher out and
>set it on the seat next to me.
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>For some reason, I kept thinking of the next door neighbor kid when I
>was young. He was 16 or 17 and had an early 70's Camaro. One night he
>was messing around with the carb (not that he was the brightest bulb in
>the box) and he got a backfire that lit it on fire... in the garage....
>under the house.
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>The house burned completely to the ground.
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>I figured if mine caught fire I'd throw it into reverse and get it out
>of the garage, then put out the flames.
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>One pump on the pedal and she fired on the first turn... and idled
>smoothly without intervention.
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>HoooHAAA! She's alive and purrs.
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>I grabbed my drop-light and did an inspection around the carb while
>running to check for leaks. Finding none after a bit of engine rumbling
>I shut it down and quit for the night. I have to pick up friends at the
>airport in a little while. I'll monkey with fine tuning it all tomorrow
>and this weekend.
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>But right now... that old Holley 3310-2 (modified) from Mark is working
>after about $150 in parts and some of my evening time over the last week
>or two.
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>Fun times,
>Asa Jay
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>Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>& Shelley Marie
>Spokane, WA
>******************************
>http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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>On 8/12/2015 9:43 PM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR wrote:
>> Just about finished the carb tonight after running into some necessary
>> changes; all this prior to mounting on the car.
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>> I found the choke fast idle cam was broken and missing the
>> bob-weight. The one on my current Holley was fine. I swapped the cam
>> to the rebuilt 3310. Then I had planned on using my existing choke
>> cover except that it really should have manifold heat (it's not
>> electric), but the passage in the intake is blocked because the heater
>> gizmo didn't fit properly when I rebuilt the engine. So I thought
>> about using the electric that came with the 3310, except that it was
>> kind of funky with a hand soldered connection on one side; I didn't
>> really trust it. Then my long-term memory kicked in and I scrounged
>> through some old drawers with Mustang parts.
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>> Aha! An older Motocraft electric choke cover in great condition. It
>> might not be calibrated for Holley but it's essentially the same. So
>> I put that on. Oh, but did I mention I don't really have an electric
>> supply to the choke? More on this later.
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>> Then I noticed the linkage wasn't nearly the same. I thought it was
>> close but didn't worry about it until tonight. Argh!
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>> I thought about swapping the base plates, but the 3310 has larger
>> bores; that wouldn't work.
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>> I thought about swapping throttle shafts, but the screws in the
>> throttle plates are staked and it's too much work to swap; that
>> wouldn't work.
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>> As it turned out, the funky (I actually think it's GM) lever on the
>> primaries had a nice hole in just about the right spot where the
>> linkage needs to hook up. And it just so happened that I had a spare
>> ball post that I could mount there. Nearly perfect! We'll check the
>> entire throttle throw once we have it mounted on the car.
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>> However, when I went to swap the electric throttle positioner which
>> holds the idle when the car is running and allows the throttle plates
>> to -completely- close when the ignition is switched off, I found the
>> accelerator pump mechanism is larger and in-the-way of mounting the
>> electric positioner. Argh!
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>> Well, I -could- swap the pump lever from my existing carb but it's got
>> a lighter spring assembly and I'm not sure it would be calibrated
>> correctly (spring-tension-wise). And I don't -really- need the
>> electric positioner if I dial the idle in correctly, so let's just
>> leave it off
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>> Well, wouldn't you know... that leaves me a 12V source that's only ON
>> when the ignition is ON. Now where could I possibly use that? OH! I
>> know.... how about the electric choke? Yea, that'll work.
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>> All that's left is to mount the fuel lines, do a final adjust on the
>> floats and hit the road. But before I get that far I have a couple
>> more parts to get.
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>> The supply line on the car is a 5/16" metal tube, which means I need a
>> 5/16" hose barb fitting to 3/8" NPT fitting to the supply line on the
>> carb. I can pick one up at Napa tomorrow. The ported vacuum on my
>> present Holley is the small size, same as the vacuum advance on the
>> distributor. The ported on this 3310 is about twice the size so I
>> need to get a reducer and some hose. I'm currently running the dual
>> diaphragm vacuum advance, and no it's not necessarily been dialed in
>> properly. I really need someone with a distributor machine, or I need
>> to cough up the money for a whizbang electronic distributor with
>> computer controlled advance/retard. But you know... if I go that far
>> I might as well buy a fuel injection system that can take advantage of
>> that. <sigh>
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>> Everything else seems to be alright. OH, one last thing.
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>> I sighted in the level on the intake pad, it' has a slight forward
>> tilt; that's expected on the Pantera. Some time ago I purchased a
>> "wedge-plate" to try and level it up. When I test fit it tonight and
>> checked level, it had about twice as much tilt to the rear as the
>> manifold did to the front without the wedge. So I'm not going to put
>> the wedge on. What I really need is a wedge at about half the angle
>> this one is.
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>> My thoughts are to set final float level on the bench by rigging the
>> base to be at about the same angle as the intake on the car, then
>> priming the fuel bowls manually and adjusting the floats via the sight
>> holes. Since the needle and seats are at the far ends of the fuel
>> bowls and the floats nearer the meter blocks, I think I need to set
>> the front (primary) to be just a touch high, and the rear to be just a
>> touch low. That should give me approximately the same amount of fuel
>> in each. Any thoughts from other experts?
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>> Alright, enough of a tome for tonight, more tomorrow.
>> Asa Jay
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>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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