[TPR] Asa's progress

David adin at frontier.net
Fri Aug 14 08:03:49 PDT 2015 

Either electric pump or fuel valve so you can run the bowls dry (on purpose) - saves the butt clinch that happens when gas runs all over everything. 

Sent from my handheld gizmo, please forgive my typing!

On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

I wouldn't mind changing them, its just a pain in the rear...  Having to take the fuel bowls off, how to capture the gas coming out without spilling it all over, making a mess, etc. If you know an easy way to do it without making too much mess, I'm open to doing it.

I actually came this > < close to buying the special fuel bowls that would have let me change jets without removing the bowls, but I didn't.  I need to save -some- money for entry fees.  ;)

Asa Jay

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mark skwarek via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

I'll bring my box of jets with me just incase you change your mind.

Currently I run 95's at sea level (still a bit rich) and go to 91's for the race.

Mark



On Friday, August 14, 2015 9:53 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:


72 in front, 76 in rear, pretty much exactly what Holley shipped with a 3310-1.  I did stumble on some other Holley jets while I was looking for other stuff in the last few days, but they are all much smaller, in the 60's.  I think they came out of some other Ford carbs I've had in the past.

I don't plan on any jet changes honestly, too much work, though I do     get what you are saying.
Asa  Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************     
http://www.racingagainstautism.com
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On 8/14/2015 6:23 AM, mark skwarek via TPR wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear about your success. You might want to make sure your jets are for the higher altitude in Nevada.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 12:50 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> In my best Gene Wilder voice...
> 
> ALIVE!.... ALIVE!.... IT'S ALIVE!!!
> 
> I forgot to grab the extra bits I needed on the way home, so after 
> dinner it was back to Napa and then to Autozone to get the fittings for 
> the fuel and vacuum.  Done deal, I picked up the brass fuel fittings 
> from Napa though I had to do a two-piece kludge to get 90* and the size 
> I wanted for the fuel line; at Autozone I picked up a large variety pack 
> of vacuum fittings and a large variety pack of vacuum plugs.
> 
> Once home, I fit the 90* fitting onto the fuel log, an appropriate size 
> vacuum fitting on the ported vacuum port and set about final float 
> adjustments.
> 
> I'm beginning to love this little hand-held vacuum pump.  It came with a 
> reservoir so you can either suck fluid without getting it into the pump, 
> or push fluid out in a neat manner.  With that in mind, I used the pump 
> to get some gas out of Shelley's Jeep (don't tell her that).  I then 
> reversed the pump, attached it to the fuel log of the Holley and started 
> pumping.
> 
> With the sight plugs removed, I could see the floats rising until they 
> stopped.  They both stopped short of the sight holes so I raised them 
> each about a quarter to half turn.  I'm sure glad I did this on the 
> bench and not on the car... those center-hung fuel adjusters for the 
> needle and seat can leak like a mother when you loosen the screw to 
> adjust the nut.  Good grief!
> 
> Once the floats were adjusted I installed the sight plugs and put the 
> carb on the engine.  I snugged everything down, routed the fuel lines, 
> vacuum lines, attached linkage and the 12V feed to the choke.  After 
> installing the air cleaner, I pulled the Halon fire extinguisher out and 
> set it on the seat next to me.
> 
> For some reason, I kept thinking of the next door neighbor kid when I 
> was young.  He was 16 or 17 and had an early 70's Camaro.  One night he 
> was messing around with the carb (not that he was the brightest bulb in 
> the box) and he got a backfire that lit it on fire... in the garage.... 
> under the house.
> 
> The house burned completely to the ground.
> 
> I figured if mine caught fire I'd throw it into reverse and get it out 
> of the garage, then put out the flames.
> 
> One pump on the pedal and she fired on the first turn... and idled 
> smoothly without intervention.
> 
> HoooHAAA!  She's alive and purrs.
> 
> I grabbed my drop-light and did an inspection around the carb while 
> running to check for leaks.  Finding none after a bit of engine rumbling 
> I shut it down and quit for the night.  I have to pick up friends at the 
> airport in a little while.  I'll monkey with fine tuning it all tomorrow 
> and this weekend.
> 
> But right now... that old Holley 3310-2 (modified) from Mark is working 
> after about $150 in parts and some of my evening time over the last week 
> or two.
> 
> Fun times,
> Asa  Jay
> 
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> &  Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> 
> 
> On 8/12/2015 9:43 PM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR wrote:
> > Just about finished the carb tonight after running into some necessary 
> > changes; all this prior to mounting on the car.
> >
> > I found the choke fast idle cam was broken and missing the 
> > bob-weight.  The one on my current Holley was fine.  I swapped the cam 
> > to the rebuilt 3310.  Then I had planned on using my existing choke 
> > cover except that it really should have manifold heat (it's not 
> > electric), but the passage in the intake is blocked because the heater 
> > gizmo didn't fit properly when I rebuilt the engine.  So I thought 
> > about using the electric that came with the 3310, except that it was 
> > kind of funky with a hand soldered connection on one side; I didn't 
> > really trust it.  Then my long-term memory kicked in and I scrounged 
> > through some old drawers with Mustang parts.
> >
> > Aha!  An older Motocraft electric choke cover in great condition.  It 
> > might not be calibrated for Holley but it's essentially the same.  So 
> > I put that on.  Oh, but did I mention I don't really have an electric 
> > supply to the choke?  More on this later.
> >
> > Then I noticed the linkage wasn't nearly the same.  I thought it was 
> > close but didn't worry about it until tonight.  Argh!
> >
> > I thought about swapping the base plates, but the 3310 has larger 
> > bores; that wouldn't work.
> >
> > I thought about swapping throttle shafts, but the screws in the 
> > throttle plates are staked and it's too much work to swap; that 
> > wouldn't work.
> >
> > As it turned out, the funky (I actually think it's GM) lever on the 
> > primaries had a nice hole in just about the right spot where the 
> > linkage needs to hook up.  And it just so happened that I had a spare 
> > ball post that I could mount there.  Nearly perfect!  We'll check the 
> > entire throttle throw once we have it mounted on the car.
> >
> > However, when I went to swap the electric throttle positioner which 
> > holds the idle when the car is running and allows the throttle plates 
> > to -completely- close when the ignition is switched off, I found the 
> > accelerator pump mechanism is larger and in-the-way of mounting the 
> > electric positioner.  Argh!
> >
> > Well, I -could- swap the pump lever from my existing carb but it's got 
> > a lighter spring assembly and I'm not sure it would be calibrated 
> > correctly (spring-tension-wise).  And I don't -really- need the 
> > electric positioner if I dial the idle in correctly, so let's just 
> > leave it off
> >
> > Well, wouldn't you know... that leaves me a 12V source that's only ON 
> > when the ignition is ON.  Now where could I possibly use that?  OH!  I 
> > know.... how about the electric choke?  Yea, that'll work.
> >
> > All that's left is to mount the fuel lines, do a final adjust on the 
> > floats and hit the road.  But before I get that far I have a couple 
> > more parts to get.
> >
> > The supply line on the car is a 5/16" metal tube, which means I need a 
> > 5/16" hose barb fitting to 3/8" NPT fitting to the supply line on the 
> > carb.  I can pick one up at Napa tomorrow.  The ported vacuum on my 
> > present Holley is the small size, same as the vacuum advance on the 
> > distributor.  The ported on this 3310 is about twice the size so I 
> > need to get a reducer and some hose.  I'm currently running the dual 
> > diaphragm vacuum advance, and no it's not necessarily been dialed in 
> > properly.  I really need someone with a distributor machine, or I need 
> > to cough up the money for a whizbang electronic distributor with 
> > computer controlled advance/retard.  But you know... if I go that far 
> > I might as well buy a fuel injection system that can take advantage of 
> > that. <sigh>
> >
> > Everything else seems to be alright.  OH, one last thing.
> >
> > I sighted in the level on the intake pad, it' has a slight forward 
> > tilt; that's expected on the Pantera.  Some time ago I purchased a 
> > "wedge-plate" to try and level it up.  When I test fit it tonight and 
> > checked level, it had about twice as much tilt to the rear as the 
> > manifold did to the front without the wedge.  So I'm not going to put 
> > the wedge on.  What I really need is a wedge at about half the angle 
> > this one is.
> >
> > My thoughts are to set final float level on the bench by rigging the 
> > base to be at about the same angle as the intake on the car, then 
> > priming the fuel bowls manually and adjusting the floats via the sight 
> > holes.  Since the needle and seats are at the far ends of the fuel 
> > bowls and the floats nearer the meter blocks, I think I need to set 
> > the front (primary) to be just a touch high, and the rear to be just a 
> > touch low.  That should give me approximately the same amount of fuel 
> > in each.  Any thoughts from other experts?
> >
> > Alright, enough of a tome for tonight, more tomorrow.
> > Asa  Jay
> >
> > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > &  Shelley Marie
> > Spokane, WA
> > ******************************
> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> > http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >
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