[TPR] The Good, the bad and the ugly . . .

Steve Hawkins shawkins777 at comcast.net
Thu Mar 29 13:00:55 PDT 2012


Yes, we're sure.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
[mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:34 PM
To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Subject: Re: [TPR] The Good, the bad and the ugly . . .


Are you sure that's a hydraulic roller and not a mechanical roller?  I  
thought it was a mechanical roller.

Asa JAy

Quoting Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>:

> I know Kirby will weigh in here but he also hasn't driven his   
> Pantera in 10 years....okay seems like 10 years now that he has the   
> fancy schmantzy Ford GT replica! ;-)
>
> I Iove my Com cams hyd roller.....will never go back to solid
> lifters  unless its a race car and my Pantera is not a race car. Its  
> a family car which occasionally sees some autobahn speeds... ;-)>
>
> Ref Hyd Comp Cam 32-651-8....Duration 245 and .612 lift.......with a
>  10 over Cleveland block, 302B heads, IR-EFI, 180's and 11:1 comp on  
>  a 381 stroker we made max power of 503RWHP @ 6,000 and  
> 477RWTQ....we  kept R's at limit of 6,000 and made max torque at  
> 5200 R
>
> On previous 381ci stroker rebuilt 4 years earlier with the same
> build EXCEPT using a Holly 830 cfm and Rosch hi rise we made 445  
> RWHP but made max 391TQ at 4900 R's...REVING to 6300 R's. 
>
> Honestly, I could not tell the difference in power....and dyno power  
>  don't mean squat...Mike Trusty said the same stroker with EFI   
> wouldn't sound as good meaning the EFI smoothed out the cam   
> allot....lost the rumpty rump going to IR-EFI system but I still   
> love it....
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: David in Durango <adin at frontier.net>
> To: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Cc: TPR List <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [TPR] The Good, the bad and the ugly . . .
>
>
> ?
> Thanks for the "encouragement" Mr. Kirby!
>  
> This morning I'm thinking a hydraulic roller would be
> nice . . .  any good ideas for a cam/lifter replacement?  I'm open to 
> suggestions/ideas/theories.
>  
> thanks!
>  
> david
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kirby  Schrader
>> To: David in Durango
>> Cc: TPR List
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:42  AM
>> Subject: Re: [TPR] The Good, the bad and  the ugly . . .
>>
>> Sounds like a typical Pantera engine tear down...
> unfortunately.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28, David in Durango <adin at frontier.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi kids,
>>>  
>>> Thought I would share some fun  . . .
>>>  
>>> Opened the Cleveland yesterday.  My hope was to re-ring and  check  
>>> everything.  15K mile motor and time to set the valves anyway as   
>>> they are making some noise (duh.)
>>>  
>>> I was told this is a 440hp motor.  It dynoed 325 rwhp @6000rpm   
>>> (and not near peak).  It has always blown oil.
>>> One plug was pretty oily when removed (#8).  #1 piston had all the
>>>  ring gaps nicely lined up . . . .   #8 cylinder showed NO sign of  
>>>  a crosshatch pattern.
>>>  
>>> Bearings: some wear noted, definately want to replace these.  Also
>>>  some sign of dirt in oil!
>>>  
>>> When I pulled the pan I noticed gasket paper and glyptol chips   
>>> stuck to the oil screen, along with some pieces of metallic
>>> debris.   Not a good sign?
>>>  
>>> Anyway, pulled the crank and set it aside only to find 2 lobes of
>>> the  cam shot  - now I get to buy a new cam!!!
>>>  
>>> so, that is the status of fun and games in Colorado . . . .
>>> David
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