[TPR] Wheel hub centric rings

Fri Jun 15 10:48:37 PDT 2012

Asa Jay, you copulating rodent . . .

Two hours last night - 1:30 - 4ish - were spent trying to : remember if 
hub-centric was better than lug centric; and B) which car/wheels had hub 
centric rings and which didn't.  sigh . . . . .

Asa's wheels were autox wheels on a hosstang and have never seen high 
speeds.  what I remember is to torque any lug-centric wheels w/ the tire off 
the ground and things should be nice.

Private to the sponsorshipthatdoesn'tpaydept:  these events aren't 
cheepcheep!  Of course, if one has a 800hpblingblingwingedandchained Pantera 
. . . why wouldn't you take it out and play with it?  Just sitting on the 
porch with the other fat old dogs was never that appealing to me.

Current plan as of 6/15/12: run the SSSC mile and support the racers.

David in Durango
Pantera, take it out and play with it!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
To: <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Wheel hub centric rings

I should add, these new wheels are lug-centric, which means they use a
tapered lug nut (my Campy lug nuts work fine) and if mounted correctly
and torqued to spec, they -should- be centered by the five lug nuts.
Many cars run with wheels like this.

I've been advised by others however, it would be "better" to be
hub-centric as it helps eliminate any high speed vibrations due to
slight imbalance due to the wheel being off-center.  If I don't find a
good hub-centric ring to use, I may simply skip it and see how it
feels at 100+.  If there is vibration, I may have to re-think that.

Asa Jay

Quoting asajay at asajay.com:

> I don't honestly know. Though I do know I have DeTomaso Campy's
> installed on my Mach I. But I don't know if they are hub-centric
as
> it's been 10 years since I put the last set of tires on. Goes to
show
> how much I drive it.
>
> Asa Jay
> <sad>
>
> Quoting B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>:
>
>> I don't believe my Magnum 500s have a centric hub. Did the Ford
> factory ship cars with the 500s to the public with out centric
hubs?
>>
>> Bud #3400
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 6/15/12, asajay at asajay.com <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: asajay at asajay.com <asajay at asajay.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Wheel hub centric rings
>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>> Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
>>
>>
>> I need to buy tires, replace the radiator, swap engines, find a
> car
>> trailer to borrow, find a truck to borrow and yea... maybe I could
> be
>> the fifth wheel.
>> :)
>>
>> Asa Jay
>> - and it might be nice to get a Rookie School waiver too. -
>>
>> Quoting Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> They look great.
>>> Does this mean you are the 5th wheel for the team at Silver
> State?
>>>
>>> Private to you:
>>> Any answers from Mike, Jack or Peace Now Larry or any of those
>> other
>>> Kalifornia List ,poca pussies you challenged to beat the hell out
>> of
>>> if they didn't get their pussy asses to Silver State in they're
> on
>>
>>> who is gonna drive their 800 hp Pantera?
>>>
>>> Okay wot about Lauri, Lori or Judy? IF you look behind them you
>> will
>>> find the men
>>>
>>> I need another beer
>>>
>>> Mad Dawg
>>> Where men are men and women are dingos
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Pantera Research Institute, Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
>>>> Extension has just completed a test fit of aftermarket Mustang
>> Cobra R
>>>> wheels to a 1973 DeTomaso Pantera. Photos and details can be
> seen
>> here:
>>>>
>>
>
http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5037
>>>>
>>>> These are 17x9 wheels with a 6" backspace. Clearances and
> spacing
>>>> appear to be good with the exception of the front flexible brake
>> line
>>>> which we can adjust. However,....
>>>>
>>>> We found the wheels are not hub-centric, as we expected with
>> aftermarket
>>>> wheels. Measuring the wheel hub and the center hole of the
wheel
>> we
>>>> came up with the following:
>>>>
>>>> - hub = 61.773mm (Front)
>>>> - wheel = 70.866mm
>>>>
>>>> That's a -lot- of space to take up, though our measurements may
> be
>> a bit
>>>> off, one can never quite tell in these things. So we are after
a
>> set of
>>>> wheel hub centric rings that will take up the slack. It would
>> appear
>>>> our best option might be a set of 71mm x 63.36mm like these:
>>>>
>>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automotive-71-6336-Centric-63-36mm/dp/B00280CSBO/ref=sr_1_116?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1339734287&sr=1-116
>>>>
>>>> Before we go off and buy a set (not that they are expensive),
> we'd
>> like
>>>> to get more feedback on what others have measured for their
front
>> wheel
>>>> hub diameter (where the wheel fits). If we are measuring
61.7mm,
>> that's
>>>> pretty close to 62mm which would give us about 1mm clearance to
>> these
>>>> rings (probably better a smidge loose than too darn tight).
>>>>
>>>> And as always, we'd appreciate any opinions out there.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Next on our list.... Tires!
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>> <Chief mechanic and research scientist>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
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