[TPR] Asa's Engine rebuild update -eggs

Sat Jul 21 10:58:36 PDT 2012

At the risk of inviting more advice that will prolong this agony...

Here are the photos of the Plastigage results:
http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5416

I'm off to Napa to buy some gaskets.
Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 7/21/2012 10:32 AM, David in Durango wrote:
> OR (probably not recommended?)
> One could think that .003 is very close to .0028 and call that close enough
> with a HV oil pump (or not).
>
> Seems a hill billy approach?  if the crank is already .010 under I'd think
> about not turning it to .020 - but that's my personal hangup.
>
> Time for a Baconater and a Modelo Especial . . . .   We don't want any egg
> shaped main jounals!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>
> To:<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [TPR] Asa's Engine rebuild update
>
>
>> Anyone?
>> JB, any opinion on the use of shim stock to tighten up the tolerance on
>> the main bearings?
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &   Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/2012 8:29 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>> Not much done tonight.
>>>
>>> - Reviewed the Plastigage.  0.003 clearance on all mains.  Spec calls
>>> for 0.001-0.0015 Desired, with 0.0028 being max allowable.  Sounds like
>>> I should probably shim and can get it from Napa.
>>>
>>> Alrighty then, it's been over 25 years since I shimmed a crank.  I've
>>> lost the knowledge, but know it can be done.  I'm looking for expert
>>> pointers on this... Russ???
>>> - Shim both bearing halves or just one?
>>> - How?
>>>
>>> Took inventory of gaskets.  Need intake, front cover, oil pan, front
>>> main seal, one head gasket (will probably buy two just for good
>>> measure).  Rest of rod bearings did -not- show up today (darnit).
>>> Break-in oil did though.  I also have three bottles of assembly lube,
>>> will use it liberally on all parts, mains, rods, cylinders, cam,
>>> lifters, etc.
>>>
>>> Gotta get'er done.
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> &    Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>> ******************************
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/20/2012 6:41 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>>> Oh, you're way ahead of me... :)   I'll have to move fast to catch up.
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> &     Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>> ******************************
>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/2012 9:44 PM, David wrote:
>>>>> Well, dang. Asa Jay may(?) catch and pass me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the lift debacle: flywheel installed, clutch installed, ZF mated
>>>>> to Cleveland (never thought I'd see that again, balance point
>>>>> determined ( pulled the ZF separately - not recommended).
>>>>>
>>>>> Still plenty to do before the stab.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Cleaned the crank with a 0.22 caliber boresnake.  No residue.  Blew
>>>>>> out with compressed air.
>>>>>> - Honed the cylinders, put a pretty good cross-hatch in there (amazing
>>>>>> how smooth and shiny the cylinders actually were before honing.)
>>>>>> - Cleaned, scrubbed the block with clean rags, brushes where possible
>>>>>> and blew out with compressed air.
>>>>>> - Placed main bearings -dry-, with crank and Plastigage.  Torqued to
>>>>>> spec using ARP assembly lube.  Will let sit overnight and check
>>>>>> readings
>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Waiting on balance of rod bearings.
>>>>>> - Will probably assembly new rings to pistons tomorrow but may need to
>>>>>> hold off piston insertion until rod bearings arrive.
>>>>>> - May be able to install cam/lifters and spring/spider assembly (holds
>>>>>> the roller lifters in place) this weekend.
>>>>>> - May be able to assemble timing gear set (Pete Jackson quiet gear
>>>>>> drive) and front cover too.  We'll see how it goes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - I should really pull the radiator this weekend too, in order to see
>>>>>> how bad it is or isn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everybody check your harnesses.  The set Mad Dawg gave me a few years
>>>>>> ago have now expired (was expected) so I need at least one new.
>>>>>> Helmet
>>>>>> is still good, SA 2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still need tires, waiting for budget to replenish.  A little closer
>>>>>> though... sold an old set of ARE wheels I used to run on the Mach I...
>>>>>> since the Campy's look so much nicer on it now.  :)  ... and can
>>>>>> runner
>>>>>> a wider tire on the rear!  Hoo rah!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photo uploads much later... trying to concentrate on the actual work
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> still taking photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>> &      Shelley Marie
>>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
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