[TPR] Oil weight opinions
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Mon Aug 20 21:07:29 PDT 2012
No it's not free. :)
I've been using Amsoil in all our rigs now for a few years. I used to
be a dealer 25 years ago, but dropped it some time back. After nuking
the old engine in the Mach I (the really old engine I rebuilt 25 years
ago)[1], and reading everything about the lack of ZDDP in modern oils, I
switched back to Amsoil.
Yes, I wish it were free, but trying to find a sponsoring dealer might
be a bit tricky. Does Steve get -his- for free? I guess you could say
I'm sponsoring myself in that regard. :)
Asa Jay
[1] I believe the largest contributing factor to nuking the Mach I
engine was using "modern" SL grade engine oils with hardly any ZDDP.
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
http://www.racingagainstautism.com
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
On 8/20/2012 8:54 PM, Teampantera wrote:
>
> Is it free? ;-)
>
> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
> >All,
> >In addition to the public replies, I received a few private ones as
> >well. I'd like to thank everyone for their input, I consider it
> valuable.
> >
> >The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't expect it to have
> >the same kind of tight tolerances a modern engine would have. The
> >majority of clearances on the rebuild came out to within factory specs,
> >but not necessarily on the "tight" side. Therefore running something
> >that would work well in a modern tight engine may not be the best. That
> >removed the 5W-20 from the list.
> >
> >The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft, with full roller
> >rockers (fulcrums and tips).
> >The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The Amsoil
> >product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries there.
> >
> >My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as the advice here, is the
> >15W-50 product, here:
> >http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx
> >
> >Thanks everyone, :)
> >Asa Jay
> >
> >
> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >& Shelley Marie
> >Spokane, WA
> >******************************
> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >
> >
> >On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
> >> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track since I know the oil is
> >> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for
> >> around town. There is no "right" answer to this though as there are
> >> many opinions.
> >>
> >> JB
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> *From:* Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>
> >> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
> >>
> >> Consensus?
> >> AMSOIL sponsoring you?
> >>
> >> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in Newsletter in last
> >> few months.
> >>
> >> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver State I just stole
> >> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too much money in my humble
> opinion.
> >>
> >> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal purple, etc and I
> >> know you and others are loyal users but my feedback from some pro
> >> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get sponsored FREE motor oil or
> >> are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any quality motor oil is fine.
> >>
> >> After my initial break in I did use Mobil One for awhile but went
> >> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I found a case in back of
> >> the garage I forgot.
> >>
> >> I change it after avery orr or track event. Yea I read there is some
> >> advantage to using a oil with a high zddp content but why pay
> >> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it worth 6-9 bucks a
> >> quart?
> >>
> >> Only if you think so ;-)
> >>
> >> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> >All,
> >> >
> >> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera for the next few
> weeks as
> >> >I put as many miles on her as possible.
> >> >
> >> >After that I'll switch to the permanent oil. Here are the options I'm
> >> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:
> >> > 5W-20
> >> > 10W-30
> >> > 15W-50
> >> >
> >> >What would the expert consensus be? (I already know what I'd
> like, but
> >> >I'm looking for alternate opinions which could change my mind)
> >> >Asa Jay
> >> >
> >> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >> >& Shelley Marie
> >> >Spokane, WA
> >> >******************************
> >> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> >> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >> >http
> >> >
> >> >
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> All,
> In addition to the public replies, I received a few private ones as
> well. I'd like to thank everyone for their input, I consider it valuable.
>
> The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't expect it to have
> the same kind of tight tolerances a modern engine would have. The
> majority of clearances on the rebuild came out to within factory
> specs, but not necessarily on the "tight" side. Therefore running
> something that would work well in a modern tight engine may not be the
> best. That removed the 5W-20 from the list.
>
> The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft, with full roller
> rockers (fulcrums and tips).
> The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The Amsoil
> product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries there.
>
> My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as the advice here, is
> the 15W-50 product, here:
> http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx
>
> Thanks everyone, :)
> Asa Jay
>
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
> On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
>> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track since I know the oil is
>> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for
>> around town. There is no "right" answer to this though as there are
>> many opinions.
>>
>> JB
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions
>>
>> Consensus?
>> AMSOIL sponsoring you?
>>
>> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in Newsletter in
>> last few months.
>>
>> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver State I just stole
>> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too much money in my humble
>> opinion.
>>
>> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal purple, etc and I
>> know you and others are loyal users but my feedback from some pro
>> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get sponsored FREE motor oil
>> or are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any quality motor oil is fine.
>>
>> After my initial break in I did use Mobil One for awhile but went
>> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I found a case in back
>> of the garage I forgot.
>>
>> I change it after avery orr or track event. Yea I read there is
>> some advantage to using a oil with a high zddp content but why pay
>> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it worth 6-9 bucks a
>> quart?
>>
>> Only if you think so ;-)
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
>>
>> >All,
>> >
>> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera for the next few weeks as
>> >I put as many miles on her as possible.
>> >
>> >After that I'll switch to the permanent oil. Here are the options I'm
>> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:
>> > 5W-20
>> > 10W-30
>> > 15W-50
>> >
>> >What would the expert consensus be? (I already know what I'd like, but
>> >I'm looking for alternate opinions which could change my mind)
>> >Asa Jay
>> >
>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> >& Shelley Marie
>> >Spokane, WA
>> >******************************
>> >http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> >http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> >http
>> >
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
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