[TPR] TEST DAY 2 180 THERMOSTAT Results of Test 4 THRU 6

[bob Radefeld]

MD

 I've never run the "hot water" test on anything but a regular thermostat &
you can obviously see it open when you get a little above its temperature
rating. Not at all sure what you should observe on a Cleveland thermostat
though under the same conditions?? Sorry I can't be of more help!  :o((

Rowdy Bob




On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>wrote:

>  Okay guys......I am pretty frustrated......
>
> As some of you know I wanted to get ready for efi tuner tomorrow who is
> coming to install wide band sensor and gauge in the Pantera.
>
> I planned to replace my 160 with a 180F Thermostat because my water temps
> were running too cool *on the street*....how cool?
>
> Well after 20-25 minutes water temp wasn't much over 160? Wired a second
> gauge to check if perhaps the gauge was wrong but 2nd gauge  was within +/-
> 5 degrees (VDO vs ProComp).
>
> I  got the 2nd replacement FlowKooler Robert Shaw 180F thermostat with
> Summits apology 12 hours after I called  them and I said the one they sent
> did not open up....no hesitation...they said I did the test right and would
> send out a replacement....so great service from Summit....and yes this is
> the same 351-C thermostat that AJ said Dan's recommended....so AJ AND DAN
> are to blame
> here ;-)>
>
> So for JB's, Russ Fulps and Mike T's benefit who haven't been following
> this idiot thread I will add a little history here because I am baffled and
> need more then the usual hugs.
>
> The last time Dick installed Russ Fulps overhauled engine with MikeT's
> IR-EFI  Dick showed me a trick 2 years ago to test the thermostat was
> working before it was installed....which was to get water heated up and at a
> +/- 160 the hat popped up or open WITH the 160 thermostat....which it did
> with in seconds of immersion in the hot 160+F water.
>
> As a side note I have had perfect +/- 180-190 water and oil temps in WOT at
> the SORC and the SSCC orr's for last 3 years with out any problems (7-8
> orr's)a.....however running on the street at legal speeds unless it is a hot
> 85F day and/or the car is sitting still for 20+ minutes in traffic or more (
> which I agree is not often) I can NOT get the water and oil temps up to
> operating temps unless I stand on it...not advisable around here!  ;-).....
>
> When the water temp does go up so does the oil temp and to Dicks credit the
> temps stay in the 180-200 range no matter how long I sit in traffic....which
> happened driving back from Reno a couple weeks ago. Soon as I came down off
> the H-395 and the Sierra's to the I-15 freeway it got HOT and the traffic
> was moving at a crawl from San Bernadino to Huntington Beach so in that case
> the water and oil jumped up to 180-190 and the engine ran beautiful at 5-15
> mph! ;-)))
>
> Okay, great learning tool/lesson from Dick but the one Summit sent
> yesterday and TODAY did not open up or 'appear' to open up....and yea as
> MikeT suggested  I watched for a slow opening and that did not happen
> either.
>
> So I am imagining <grin> I have FUBAR?
>
> With the new replacement thermostat in hand and a second new thermometer
>  in hand I once again heated the water to 160, then 170, then 180, and place
> the thermosat back in the water......watching and waiting for the thermostat
> to open was like watching paint dry.....nothing happened......temps went to
> 190-200.....I waited easily 20-25 seconds....and then stoppped....YES
> thermostat fully immersed in heated water.
>
> TEST #2 Same except I let the thermostat sit in water watched for any hat
> movement and again nothing happened....water boiled....thermostat did not
> 'appear' to open..
>
> I give up...wanted to get it installed before efi tuner comes by tomorrow
> so if you have any suggestions let me know. Yea, I don't want to pull the
> existing 160F thermostat out of the block this close to tuner visit tomorrow
> morning....he's adding wide bad sensor so I don't need to change out the
> thermostat today or tomorrow for him to do his thing.
>
> *Mad Dawg Antenucci
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