[TPR] Valve cover breathers

Sat Feb 19 11:43:11 PST 2011

Will you stop this?

Yea for the 2nd time, its on me official TPR fuel cell feeding IR-EFI.  ;-]>

It includes 12-bolt top fill plate which includes check valve, etc. And passes 
official tech inspections. Now pulls fuel off bottom of tank.

Go to Pegasus...everything you need is there. Hall also used to sell a cheap 
plastic check 'rollover' valve.
Funny you should mention overfilling...I have not had that problem since 
modifying my fuel tank.....

Lessons Learned Story follows - 

I remember running right behind Jim Saxton at Willow Springs a few years 
ago....Jim lost it on turn 5 as we headed up  the hill and he sadly  rolled 
over....it wasn't my fault......... however he should have known NOT to try and 
go faster then my all stock Pantera in his race Pantera! ;-)

So when he crashed I pulled my Pantera over to see if I could help because as I 
said earlier he and the Pantera were UPSIDE DOWN...... I saw FUEL gushing like a 
river out his remote RACE fill cap while he was sitting in the cockpit like he 
had all day to get out. . .but I think the check valve worked okay so yea they 
are a good idea! ;-)>

Its amazing how fast that BIG boy got out of that Pantera door 'window' when I 
screamed at him,

"JIM, YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THE COCKPIT NOW BECAUSE COURSE OFFICIALS WILL GET 
REALLY MAD AT YOU FOR ALL THIS FUEL GUSHING OUT OF YOUR RACE PANTERA ON THE 
COURSE AND YOU MAY GET A BLACK FLAG AND BE BANNED FROM TRACK EVENTS AND IT ALSO 
MAKES THE REST OF US WITH PANTERA'S LOOK BAD".....(long version.

Okay those may NOT of been  my exact advise to Jim..............

But, its still amazing how fast that BIG boy got out the side window of his 
race Pantera after I yelled at him....if you had asked me if it was possible for 
him to fit out that little side windown I would have said only as possible as a 
Leprechaun flying out of his rear end.  

Lots of stories about that day...and of course they are all true ;-]>

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 11:04:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Valve cover breathers

John,

I thought about this, but have a concern.  If I simply plug the     canister 
line from the tank, and if I don't have a gas cap that     breathes, won't this 
give me a pressure problem in the gas tank?

I see this as having two solutions:
- Vented gas cap, or
- Vented tank

Bud sent me some ideas too that he did.  I'll have to take a look at     it all 
to see how I want to do it.

Anyone install a rollover valve?  Do you have pictures?  Does it sit     below 
the filler neck?  What happens if you overfill?

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA 
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On 2/16/2011 11:50, John Bentley wrote: 
Asa,
>
>Just remove the charcoal canister and plug the vapor line               at the 
>gas tank.  You should have one breather element               (can get from K&N) 
>and a fill cap.  That's all you               need to do.
>
>JB
>
>
>--- On Tue, 2/15/11, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>>Subject: [TPR] Valve cover breathers
>>To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 8:52 PM
>>
>>
>>If I remove the stock air cleaner                   from my 351C engine in the 
>>Pantera, in 
>>
>>order to install a K&N drop-base air cleaner with                   filter and 
>>filter 
>>
>>top...  I will have two hoses that go nowhere.
>>- oil fill cap breather hose to stock air cleaner
>>- charcoal canister vent tube to stock air cleaner
>>
>>What's a guy to do?
>>
>>I see there are some nice breathers available but what                   is the 
>>best 
>>
>>recommended solution to my predicament?  Should I get                   a simple 
>>push-in 
>>
>>breather that I can put in the oil fill cap?  Is there                   a 
>>better breather 
>>
>>solution that can replace the cap?  How did -you- do                   it?
>>
>>Then, what about that pesky charcoal canister?  Should                   I 
>>simply remove 
>>
>>it and place it gently on a shelf with a tag for                   future 
>>restoration?  If 
>>
>>I do that, what do I do with the vent hose from the                   fuel 
>tank?
>>
>>I feel like such a novice.
>>
>>Asa Jay
>>
>>-- 
>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>&  Shelley Marie
>>Spokane, WA
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