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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">LOLOLOL...Awesome rant Crazy Dave#3.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Miss you Bro'</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The coming weeks and months are going to be very interesting.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Good Times,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Dennis, headed to Portland to look at a new $2 billion bridge proposal!</div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 06:20:34 PM PST, David Carpenter <davecarp80138@outlook.com> wrote:
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<div>The $$$$ Ford lost on EV's in just 2023 was like $8BILLION!! Akin to LOSING like $30,000 on EVERY one produced!</div>
<div>Wasn't it Toyota that said:</div>
<div>"We're not even going there. They won't be produced long!!"</div>
<div>(Hydrogen power still not $$ effective....but might be fuel of the future)</div>
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<div>Tax rebates: ABSOLUTELY SHOULD END!!!</div>
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<div>Nobody gave any of us $$$$ to help buy our vehicles!!</div>
<div>NOBODY gave my customers $$$ to do business with my company!!!</div>
<div>(Or I'd be as rich as Elon)</div>
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<div>Tax $ 's based on miles driven MIGHT be a fine idea!! Maybe 15 States working on idea.</div>
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<div>But let me be clear!! The Dirty SOB Gov't WILL NOT WANT TO GET RID OF TAX $$$ FROM GASOLINE/DIESEL Purchases!!</div>
<div>Instead: they will charge EVERY Vehicle a Cost Per mile driven.</div>
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<div>They will NOT discontinue fuel road taxes.</div>
<div>SO ICE Drivers will be double taxed!!!</div>
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<div>At least: my opinion of the new:</div>
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<div><b><i><u>"DOUBLE TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!!"</u></i></b></div>
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<div>Revolutionary War started over the premise!!!!!</div>
<div>MD doesn't remember. He was in Grade school ....back in the Colonies!!!</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:-apple-system, HelveticaNeue;font-size:16px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b><i><u>You should never arrive at the Pearly Gates in a Pristine body!! </u></i></b></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:-apple-system, HelveticaNeue;font-size:16px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b><i><u>It should be broken, tired & well used!</u></i></b></span></div>
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<b><i><u>You should arrive, Sliding in sideways & exclaim:</u></i></b></div>
<span style="font-family:-apple-system, HelveticaNeue;font-size:16px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b><i><u>"WOW!! THAT WAS A HELLUVA RIDE!!!"</u></i></b></span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] Some Pantera Content....Re: Fwd: What a Trump White House Means for SEMA & the SAN</font>
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<div dir="ltr">I will add Ford has held the dealers feet to the fire on the EV rule...You want to sell our FORD (or Chevy etc) then you WILL sell the EV's too.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">EV Mandates are just one more issue like cancel culture and WOKE policies why Dems lost the election.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dawg not a Republican but I certainly understand what the majority of Americans were saying when they elected Trump...like him or hate him just remember your stuck with him for 4 years <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" height="16" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f602.png" width="16" style="padding:0px 2px;vertical-align:middle;" class="ydp29cca7c4yiv3971043648x_yahoo-emoji-wrapper" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"><img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" height="16" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f923.png" width="16" style="padding:0px 2px;vertical-align:middle;" class="ydp29cca7c4yiv3971043648x_yahoo-emoji-wrapper" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></div>
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<div>On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 10:26:27 AM PST, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> wrote:
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<div>I’ve heard dealers still have inventory from 2022 they can’t sell. Gas powered trucks. It might be a great time to buy a brand new truck even if it’s a few years old.
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<div dir="ltr">Excellent analysis Asa! </div>
<div dir="ltr">I am all most old enough to remember horse and buggy owners were none too happy to see automobiles back in the day(1906)...those things claimed many made so damn much noise...but wait a minute said many,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">"too bad you old racers did not have turbo or super chargers back in the day"</div>
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<div dir="ltr">PS Ever notice how EV's never have a patriotic or military or even a 'baby-on-board" sticker on the back window?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Just sayin, if anyone wants to buy an EV I am on board but let them pay road taxes like the rest of us and stop charging tax payers for all the subsidies EV mfg and sellers and buyers receive.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Was in Vegas a week ago for SEMA and was at dinner with a couple next to us and he and his wife owned a Ford dealership in Michigan. I did not share my own my own opinion on EV's as I did not want to give him indigestion but when I said I had
a couple Ford powered automobiles of my own his interest perked up "what kind" did he ask. So I told him the F-150 and the Pantera....and we had a great dinner conversation during and after dinner....not sure the women were as excited as my new friend and
I were but when the subject of EV's did come up and you guys know I WOULD bring it up he said we are loosing money on every EV we sell and we also can not sell the ones we have....so there you have it....first hand opinion of a Ford Dealer!!!</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Yea, perhaps I should not of been surprised but I was.</div>
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to force the auto industry into pursuing electric much faster than possible, and the market has had to push back mostly due to electric infrastructure limitations. Even though the mandates have not yet been repealed, you can see the likes of Toyota, Ford,
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I think EVs are here to stay and will enjoy steady adoption without government mandates. Little nudges always seem to work best, like buyer incentives (tax breaks), and utility participation (free charger installations). But there also has to be a balance.
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