<p dir="ltr">What ever you do don't let him pick up the hammer, he will really hurt himself then.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 6:42 PM Asa Jay Laughton <<a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Mad Dog after picking up a tool…. and using it just before the event.<img alt="image0.jpeg" src="cid:mf_EF4A5E4B-5AC7-4F4B-8CCE-5FAE7794EB49/L0/001"><br id="m_-237075064066555860lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Asa Jay<div>Sent via radio waves</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 24, 2024, at 18:37, David Carpenter via TPR <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
<div dir="auto">What was the you said in the past????</div>
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<div dir="auto">Dennis!!!! PUT DOWN THE WRENCH!!!!"</div>
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<div dir="auto">something like that!!</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:40:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Owen Lee Green <<a href="mailto:oneeyez4263@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oneeyez4263@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="auto">And then another perfect example of teamwork was how Peter dug out his tool set to remove locked lug nuts on my tow rig where owners did not have the proper tool to remove them. Or how Peter and Jim found the Tq on truck wheels was well in excess
of 350+ #. Peter had this massive 5’ long breaker bar that made fast work of getting all those lug nuts off.
<div>Team work!</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Sep 24, 2024, at 5:32 PM, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <<a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>yea it is 100% ASA turning the wrenches. With losts of support and history from Larry, Mark, Gerry, Dave and others on the team.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 2:39 PM Mad Dog Antenucci via TPR <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Okay this is a good starting point for ASA....We (ASA) have allot work to do!</div>
<div dir="ltr">Thank you Larry again, for all your lessons learned.</div>
<div dir="ltr">We have extended A arms and adjustable ride and height shocks but I will have Asa replace those and not sure about the camber lock but Asa can check those as well as everything else as well.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Yea its gonna be an investment. Excellent point as well on 17 & 18" tires.</div>
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<div>On Tuesday, September 24, 2024 at 11:02:14 AM PDT, Larry Stock <<a href="mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">larrys@panteraparts.com</a>> wrote:
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<p>I sent this to ASA earlier;</p>
<p><span style="color:black">I should say that I spent a lot of money and time with custom precision alignments, be prepared to spend $1000 per set up at a custom alignment shop.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I also assume that you have front camber locks installed</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I didn’t see a ride height/A-Arm flattening corner weighted anything specs, but you need to do that first.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Those A-Arms need to be flat and parallel for the steering geometry to work as designed, so you need adjustable spring heights</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">When getting down to designed ride height, it is sometimes challenging to get the Right Rear toe to come in with the engine torque and chassis age settling. I lost a ¼ degree per year when racing with Right Side ‘Sagging” so Adjustable
Upper rear A-Arms became a ‘MUST’ over time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Too much front toe, cut those #’s in half</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Too much front camber, those are the published 15” tire #’s, you want to see .125 degree for 17” or 18” low profile tires</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Front Caster looks great</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Rear toe should be less, in the .05 degree</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Rear Camber same as the front .12 degree +/-.1 </span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">They might want you to sign a wavier to deviate from published recommended 15” wheel alignment specs</span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Larry</span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 24, 2024 at 10:39 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>>, Asa Jay Laughton <<a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">asajay@asajay.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Curious what or where you think we can improve there.?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 07:32:25 PM PDT, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:
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2021 Alignment result:<br clear="none">
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<pre><span style="color:#26282a">Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired</span></pre>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">5-7 degrees caster at speed, will react very smooth.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Same caster @ 20-50 mph can be a handful. (I chose the speed side, & loved w the minor downside at slow speeds.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Like Larry said: even minor Toe Out makes the steering Hunt!! (You can never ever let go of wheel)</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Different wheels may have changed it all!!!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Compare print out from when it was done before.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">If 'A' arms adjusted /checked as he suggests: alignment needs to be done AFTER any 'A' arm changes....if you go that route.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Without a print out of alignment specs: without a ride along: it's dang hard to speculate from afar!!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">I've even seen air pressure & tread designs be the culprit!!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Or someone had directional tires.....with Half the arrows wrong!!!!!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">(I was SURE I HAD SEEN IT ALL.....TIL THEN!!!)</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> TPR <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
<tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com></a> on behalf of Larry Stock via TPR <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 23, 2024 3:42:05 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Mad Dog Antenucci <a shape="rect" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
<teampantera@yahoo.com></a>; Owen Lee Green <a shape="rect" href="mailto:oneeyez4263@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<b>To: </b>Owen Lee Green <a shape="rect" href="mailto:oneeyez4263@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<b>Cc: </b>Team Racing <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
<tpr@teampanteraracing.com></a>, Jim Wallace <a shape="rect" href="mailto:j.wallace@boston-group.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">I generally set up with spring rates in the 400 pound range +/-50 lbs., with rear springs 25 pounds (+/-25 pounds) more than the front springs.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">A-Arms need to be adjusted flat and parallel with the road surface front and rear</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">TOE-IN @ 1/16” on each corner making .125” total front and rear. NOTE any rear toe out is loose and squirrely, Front toe out wants to initiate turns quickly and dart</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">CAMBER with 15” tires negative ½ degree +/-1/4 degree on all 4 corners</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">CAMBER with 17”-18” tires negative 0-1/4 degree on all 4 corners, with 37PSI Front, 35PSI rear tire pressure</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">CASTER MAX stock is 2-2-1/2 degrees, Pantera’s wants more with 17”+ tires. I get 4-4-1/2 degrees with offset bushings and shaved upper Ball joints. Modified or Aluminum A-Arms should give you up to 8 degrees,
I’d try 6 degrees and make sure the steering wheel doesn’t want to cut your hands off at the wrist after making a turn. More caster will make the Pantera more stable at speed, too much will be a handful when turning.</span></p>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] Pantera Alignment</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a">Slightly softer spring rate in the front might help. Was the front feeling like it was bucking at speed? Eg bouncing hard but aero downforce keeping the nose down.
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#26282a">I am coming out of my latest COVID Fog but recall Mark and I and some of you had discussions on while his Z06 this year and my C8 last year handling was no better then how well our Pantera's alignment was set
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#26282a">Bare with me as I know some of you will have different views here but what changed on my Pantera. One was going to 18" front wheels and the other big change was adding the extended A arms that Asa put on from
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#26282a">Asa suggested the road surface may have been the problem but Mark and I have seen just bad road conditions in previous years at 140-160+ speeds. So I am leaning now on suspension settings first....and it was
suggested adding toe in or out may be the problem.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#26282a">When I got the Pantera back from As after he had a local alignment shop reset suspension the Pantera felt fine at speeds up to a 100 or so but unfortunately the only thing that matters is real road conditions
at 150+. I only average 134 this year and not sure I would have wanted to handle much more then 140 comfortably.....that sweet spot for me....a 140-150 Average....but again something is off.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#26282a">Others suggested the wheels might have been off but they were so well balanced from the factory only one wheel needed a corrected weight. Much better then I ever saw with other vendors wheels. So let me know
your thoughts but what I hope is that Jim and Pat will come up with what settings they are using or others are using on Pantera's running endurance speeds.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282a"></span></p>
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