<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yes. My other cars are insured by Allstate and they offered me a discount if I would put a device in the car to monitor my driving. That answer was a hard no. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 7, 2024, at 10:56 PM, Owen Lee Green via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">Actually they would try to use it against us. Even if we are traveling down a public highway at triple digit speeds, Legally.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 10:53 PM DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Big Brother at work!<div>No problem at Silver State.</div><div>HAHA</div><div><br></div><div>Made ther 9 hour drive home from Seattle. Coming down the I-5 some bad fire smoke from fires in Cascades. </div><div><br></div><div>Good news We got our TPR and sponsor decals. So will put them on Pantera tomorrow and switch out my old wheels and tires for the fancy TSG race wheels and Pirelli Trafeo tires. Had to buy a spare wheel/tire for the trailer today. Most importantly the Pantera started right up. No fluid leaks. No problems.</div><div><br></div><div>Will wait for Asa to replace the 02 sensor wrap/clamp the singing balance tubes in Ely. </div><div><br></div><div>Dawg eating 2 pound steak burrito</div><div><img alt="image0.jpeg" src="cid:8BBF41BF-8252-4595-A97E-A782C45B3FCD-L0-001" data-unique-identifier=""><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> "William L. Hohnhorst" <<a href="mailto:wlhohnhorst@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wlhohnhorst@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> September 7, 2024 at 12:51:41 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> undisclosed-recipients:;<br><b>Subject:</b> <b>FORD'S NEW TECH COULD TURN POLICE CARS INTO HIGH-TECH WATCHDOGS</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<h2 style="margin:0in;text-align:center;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline" align="center"><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;letter-spacing:-.2pt;font-weight:normal">Automaker’s
new patent: Turning cars into speed cops</span></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;line-height:15.0pt;vertical-align:baseline" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">By <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/person/k/kurt-knutsson-cyberguy-report" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><b><span style="color:#003366;letter-spacing:-.2pt">Kurt
Knutsson, CyberGuy Report</span></b></a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Published August
29, 2024 10:00am EDT</span></span> <span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">|</span></span><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> Updated August
30, 2024 12:57pm EDT</span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/category/auto/make/ford" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
Motor Company</span></a> recently filed a patent
application that's raising eyebrows and sparking
debate about privacy and surveillance on our roads.
The patent, "Systems and Methods for Detecting
Speeding Violations," describes a system that could
turn Ford vehicles into mobile speed detectors
capable of reporting other drivers to the police.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">The
patent application was filed with the United States
Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) in January
2023. However, it was formally published by the
USPTO on July 18, 2024. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">This <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/tech" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">innovative
yet controversial technology</span></a> has the
potential to revolutionize traffic law enforcement
while simultaneously raising significant concerns
about privacy and civil liberties.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image001.jpg" src="cid:part1.7Qx1vjhF.zbh5Bdp0@gmail.com" data-unique-identifier=""></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
Police Interceptor</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(Ford
Motor Company)</span></span></b></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">How
it works</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">The
proposed system utilizes a sophisticated combination
of onboard cameras and sensors to monitor the speed
of surrounding vehicles in real time. <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/auto" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">If a car</span></a> is
detected exceeding the speed limit, the system
springs into action. It captures a high-resolution
image of the speeding vehicle, meticulously records
the speed, time and precise location of the
violation and then compiles this information into a
comprehensive report.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">This
data package is then transmitted directly to police
or roadside monitoring units via a secure internet
connection, providing law enforcement with instant,
actionable intelligence.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image002.jpg" src="cid:part2.16OMsp0z.UQtdSD9B@gmail.com" data-unique-identifier=""></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
speed-violation detection patent image</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(USPTO)</span></span></b></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> </span></strong></h2>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Potential
benefits of the proposed system</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">Proponents
of the system argue that it could significantly
streamline the enforcement of speed limits,
potentially leading to safer roads and reduced
traffic fatalities. Automating the detection and
reporting process could dramatically reduce the need
for dangerous high-speed police pursuits, keeping
both officers and drivers safer. Furthermore, the
technology could be seamlessly integrated into
self-driving cars, creating a network of autonomous
speed monitors patrolling our highways.</span></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Concerns
about the mobile speed detection technology</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">However,
the potential benefits are accompanied by a host of
concerns. Privacy advocates worry that this
technology could represent a significant step
towards a surveillance state, where every vehicle on
the road becomes a potential informant. There are
also serious legal questions about the admissibility
of evidence collected without direct police
observation. Moreover, the system's inability to
confirm the identity of the driver – a limitation
shared by current speed camera technology – could
lead to wrongful accusations and legal
complications.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image003.jpg" src="cid:part3.pVxVCNR0.LUsA8p0h@gmail.com" data-unique-identifier=""></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
speed-violation detection patent image</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(USPTO)</span></span></b></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> </span></strong></h2>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford's
response</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">In
response to the growing concerns, we contacted Ford,
and a spokesperson clarified the company's
intentions: </span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">"The
patent explicitly states this idea is specific for
application in law enforcement vehicles, such as the
Ford Police Interceptor, and it's a system that
would automate a capability that law enforcement
already have in use today, except this would utilize
the built-in system and sensors in the vehicle.
This patent does not state that driving data from
customers' vehicles would be shared with law
enforcement, which is what some media have
incorrectly reported. And note, patent applications
are intended to protect new ideas, but aren't
necessarily an indication of new business or product
plans."</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">However,
skeptics point out that the language in the <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25023105-us-20240239352-a1_i" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">patent
application</span></a> seems to leave room for
broader applications, potentially opening the door
for future expansion of the technology's use.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image004.jpg" src="cid:part4.q0lYvApj.AzqUJ7EK@gmail.com" data-unique-identifier=""></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
speed-violation detection patent image</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(USPTO)</span></span></b></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Legal
and practical challenges</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">Implementing
such a system would face numerous hurdles, both
legal and practical. The admissibility of evidence
collected without direct police observation could be
challenged in court, potentially rendering the
system ineffective as a law enforcement tool. The
inability to confirm the identity of the driver,
similar to current speed camera limitations, could
lead to innocent vehicle owners being wrongly
penalized for violations committed by others driving
their cars. Furthermore, there's likely to be
significant public backlash against what many would
perceive as an invasive surveillance system.</span></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Kurt's
key takeaways</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">Ford’s
patent for mobile speed detection technology
presents a fascinating yet contentious development
in traffic law enforcement. While it promises
enhanced road safety and efficiency, it also raises
critical questions about privacy and the potential
for misuse. As this technology evolves, it will be
crucial to balance its benefits with the protection
of civil liberties, ensuring that advancements in
safety do not come at the expense of our personal
privacy. The ongoing debate will undoubtedly shape
the future of how such technologies are implemented
and regulated.</span></p>
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are your thoughts on the balance between
technological advancements in traffic law
enforcement and the protection of personal privacy?
Do you think the benefits outweigh the potential
risks? Let us know by writing us at<strong><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> </span></strong><a href="http://cyberguy.com/Contact" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><strong><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Cyberguy.com/Contact</span></strong></a><strong><u><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">.</span></u></strong></span></p>
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