<p dir="ltr">Where did those pictures come from I didn't send them.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 10:55 PM Owen Lee Green <<a href="mailto:oneeyez4263@gmail.com">oneeyez4263@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Actually they would try to use it against us. Even if we are traveling down a public highway at triple digit speeds, Legally.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 10:53 PM DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Big Brother at work!<div>No problem at Silver State.</div><div>HAHA</div><div><br></div><div>Made ther 9 hour drive home from Seattle. Coming down the I-5 some bad fire smoke from fires in Cascades. </div><div><br></div><div>Good news We got our TPR and sponsor decals. So will put them on Pantera tomorrow and switch out my old wheels and tires for the fancy TSG race wheels and Pirelli Trafeo tires.  Had to buy a spare wheel/tire  for the trailer today. Most importantly the  Pantera started right up. No fluid leaks. No problems.</div><div><br></div><div>Will wait for Asa to replace the 02 sensor wrap/clamp the singing balance tubes in Ely. </div><div><br></div><div>Dawg eating 2 pound steak burrito</div><div><img alt="image0.jpeg"><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> "William L. Hohnhorst" <<a href="mailto:wlhohnhorst@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wlhohnhorst@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> September 7, 2024 at 12:51:41 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> undisclosed-recipients:;<br><b>Subject:</b> <b>FORD'S NEW TECH COULD TURN POLICE CARS INTO HIGH-TECH WATCHDOGS</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

  

    
  
  
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                <h2 style="margin:0in;text-align:center;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline" align="center"><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;letter-spacing:-.2pt;font-weight:normal">Automaker’s
                    new patent: Turning cars into speed cops</span></h2>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;line-height:15.0pt;vertical-align:baseline" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">By <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/person/k/kurt-knutsson-cyberguy-report" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#003366;letter-spacing:-.2pt">Kurt
                          Knutsson, CyberGuy Report</span></b></a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666">
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Published August
                      29, 2024 10:00am EDT</span></span> <span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">|</span></span><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> Updated August
                      30, 2024 12:57pm EDT</span></span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/category/auto/make/ford" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
                        Motor Company</span></a> recently filed a patent
                    application that's raising eyebrows and sparking
                    debate about privacy and surveillance on our roads. 
                    The patent, "Systems and Methods for Detecting
                    Speeding Violations," describes a system that could
                    turn Ford vehicles into mobile speed detectors
                    capable of reporting other drivers to the police.</span></p>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">The
                    patent application was filed with the United States
                    Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) in January
                    2023.  However, it was formally published by the
                    USPTO on July 18, 2024. </span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">This <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/tech" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">innovative
                        yet controversial technology</span></a> has the
                    potential to revolutionize traffic law enforcement
                    while simultaneously raising significant concerns
                    about privacy and civil liberties.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image001.jpg"></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
                      Police Interceptor</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(Ford
                        Motor Company)</span></span></b></p>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">How
                      it works</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">The
                    proposed system utilizes a sophisticated combination
                    of onboard cameras and sensors to monitor the speed
                    of surrounding vehicles in real time.  <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/auto" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">If a car</span></a> is
                    detected exceeding the speed limit, the system
                    springs into action.  It captures a high-resolution
                    image of the speeding vehicle, meticulously records
                    the speed, time and precise location of the
                    violation and then compiles this information into a
                    comprehensive report.</span></p>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">This
                    data package is then transmitted directly to police
                    or roadside monitoring units via a secure internet
                    connection, providing law enforcement with instant,
                    actionable intelligence.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image002.jpg"></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
                      speed-violation detection patent image</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(USPTO)</span></span></b></p>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> </span></strong></h2>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Potential
                      benefits of the proposed system</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">Proponents
                    of the system argue that it could significantly
                    streamline the enforcement of speed limits,
                    potentially leading to safer roads and reduced
                    traffic fatalities.  Automating the detection and
                    reporting process could dramatically reduce the need
                    for dangerous high-speed police pursuits, keeping
                    both officers and drivers safer.  Furthermore, the
                    technology could be seamlessly integrated into
                    self-driving cars, creating a network of autonomous
                    speed monitors patrolling our highways.</span></p>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Concerns
                      about the mobile speed detection technology</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">However,
                    the potential benefits are accompanied by a host of
                    concerns.  Privacy advocates worry that this
                    technology could represent a significant step
                    towards a surveillance state, where every vehicle on
                    the road becomes a potential informant.  There are
                    also serious legal questions about the admissibility
                    of evidence collected without direct police
                    observation.  Moreover, the system's inability to
                    confirm the identity of the driver – a limitation
                    shared by current speed camera technology – could
                    lead to wrongful accusations and legal
                    complications.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image003.jpg"></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
                      speed-violation detection patent image</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(USPTO)</span></span></b></p>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> </span></strong></h2>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford's
                      response</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">In
                    response to the growing concerns, we contacted Ford,
                    and a spokesperson clarified the company's
                    intentions: </span></p>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">"The
                    patent explicitly states this idea is specific for
                    application in law enforcement vehicles, such as the
                    Ford Police Interceptor, and it's a system that
                    would automate a capability that law enforcement
                    already have in use today, except this would utilize
                    the built-in system and sensors in the vehicle. 
                    This patent does not state that driving data from
                    customers' vehicles would be shared with law
                    enforcement, which is what some media have
                    incorrectly reported.  And note, patent applications
                    are intended to protect new ideas, but aren't
                    necessarily an indication of new business or product
                    plans."</span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">However,
                    skeptics point out that the language in the <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25023105-us-20240239352-a1_i" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#003366;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">patent
                        application</span></a> seems to leave room for
                    broader applications, potentially opening the door
                    for future expansion of the technology's use.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"><img alt="image004.jpg"></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#222222"></span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ford
                      speed-violation detection patent image</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"> <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(USPTO)</span></span></b></p>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Legal
                      and practical challenges</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">Implementing
                    such a system would face numerous hurdles, both
                    legal and practical.  The admissibility of evidence
                    collected without direct police observation could be
                    challenged in court, potentially rendering the
                    system ineffective as a law enforcement tool.  The
                    inability to confirm the identity of the driver,
                    similar to current speed camera limitations, could
                    lead to innocent vehicle owners being wrongly
                    penalized for violations committed by others driving
                    their cars.  Furthermore, there's likely to be
                    significant public backlash against what many would
                    perceive as an invasive surveillance system.</span></p>
                <h2 style="margin:0in;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Kurt's
                      key takeaways</span></strong><span style="font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222"></span></h2>
                <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">Ford’s
                    patent for mobile speed detection technology
                    presents a fascinating yet contentious development
                    in traffic law enforcement.  While it promises
                    enhanced road safety and efficiency, it also raises
                    critical questions about privacy and the potential
                    for misuse.  As this technology evolves, it will be
                    crucial to balance its benefits with the protection
                    of civil liberties, ensuring that advancements in
                    safety do not come at the expense of our personal
                    privacy.  The ongoing debate will undoubtedly shape
                    the future of how such technologies are implemented
                    and regulated.</span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#222222">What
                    are your thoughts on the balance between
                    technological advancements in traffic law
                    enforcement and the protection of personal privacy? 
                    Do you think the benefits outweigh the potential
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