<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Glad we are discussing all of this as it may help any if us from avoiding getting sideways with insurance companies etc<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 18, 2024, at 7:52 PM, David Carpenter <davecarp80138@outlook.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div dir="auto">We have two new vehicles.</div>
<div dir="auto">A GMC Sierra & Buick Enclave.</div>
<div dir="auto">I get info from GM about oil changes & such.</div>
<div dir="auto">I find it disturbing...always did!!</div>
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<div dir="auto">I do not subscribe to On Star services, never did.</div>
<div dir="auto">But I get those reports anyway.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Guess I'll ck & see what it takes to Turn OFF On-Star completely.</div>
<div dir="auto">As I said: I was NEVER a paying customer.</div>
<div dir="auto">Yet I get reports....so there's some hidden communication!!</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2024 3:07:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> laurieferrari@aol.com <laurieferrari@aol.com>; Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal">Although our younger society of engineers and graduates preach about environmental sustainability, but the Cars produced today seem to last much longer if driven, but when they are done, they are throw aways, just like most anything
else produced today. All we can do is put up with them as long as we can and throw them away and hope their tracking devices will create the data of waste.</p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal">Thanks for sharing again. A Good reminder Laurie thst these electronics do not last long in heat and Socal is hot… as amazing as the electronics are in the new cars it is a reminder your mechanicals will probably outlast the electronics.</p>
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to stop it really wasn't responsive and took much longer to stop. Turned off and on and gone. But next time starting happened again. Good thing I have an extended warranty but we'll see how that goes. Anyone electronically skilled know why that would occur?
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