<div dir="auto">Dennis - thanks for forwarding this. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Small correction - it was the Quaife that chewed itself apart. I tend to be a little more direct with the Team Pantera guys/gals. As racers, they understand what it means not to have a garage queen. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I forgot to forward this to the Team Pantera crowd:</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/historic/2022/11/the-7-coolest-cars-at-the-2022-daytona-classic-24/">https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/historic/2022/11/the-7-coolest-cars-at-the-2022-daytona-classic-24/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">They had filmed a 20 minute interview and then a comprehensive photo shoot, with the hopes that we would have finished. Still, with the screwed up transaxle and all they put in the article, which I thought was very nice of them. They also gave the car an invite to the Goodwood festival. Also very nice of them.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks, all, for the support and encouragement.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Steve and Tony.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 15, 2023, 11:51 DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Our own “Steve Lisa” sharing challenges as he prepares for a new endurance race season.<div><br></div><div> I loved his quotable comment about the ZF breaking in competition. Steve’s level of effort goes way beyond what most of us ever spend getting ready for an open track or road event. <div><br></div><div>And yes, he has promised to share updates with us in the future as I know most of you are not on the POCA so here ya go…<br><div><br><div>“…it was chewing itself apart”</div><div><br></div><div>Read thread below.</div><div><br></div><div>Dennis & MD</div><div>TPR<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> Steve Lisa <<a href="mailto:stevelisa@patentit.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stevelisa@patentit.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> January 14, 2023 at 9:04:27 AM PST<br><b>To:</b> DENNIS ANTENUCCI <<a href="mailto:TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>[DeTomaso] transaxle info please</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Thanks, Dennis. We love racing the Panrrera and we will get it right.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 09:27 DENNIS ANTENUCCI <<a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Awesome Steve. We’re all very proud of you. <div><br></div><div>Dennis</div><div><br></div><div>“…it was chewing itself apart”<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 14, 2023, at 8:03 AM, Steve Lisa <<a href="mailto:stevelisa@patentit.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">stevelisa@patentit.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Regarding temps, the Quaife ran 250 degrees the first few sessions and the first heat race. Then it ran 260, then 270, then 290 (first hour of the 24), then 320 during the second hour. In hind sight, by the last few sessions it was chewing itself apart.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Contributing to the heat was the need to tighten the CWP clearance to get further into the coast side of the gear. This what off road racers did that ran on the coast side of the CWP on 4 wheel drive vehicles. The expectation before Daytona was we could stop the chipping away of the pinion by tightening the clearance very very slightly. The risk was more heat...and that it wouldn't work at a track like Daytona which is hard on everything. We know the result.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Before this issue, we were running consistently 190 water temp, 250 trans temp in the ZF, and 250 oil temp. We were happy with that, but would like to see engine oil down some. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It was apparent to us that, with the oil cooler in back and the trans just in front of the cooler, everything in the "area" ended up settling while racing at 250 (according to the IR gun). We will be figuring out how to get more fresh air in and more hot air out to lower the temperature at speed in the engine compartment while still complying with Gr. 3 rules (no holes in body work and no external aero) and without slowing the car or screwing up it's handling. We will be doing some aero and video testing early this year, playing around with yarn and underbody scoops into the engine bay. That kind of stuff is fun and interesting....way more than screwing around with the trans problems.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will share more as we progress.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I also have some pics of the Quaife internals if anyone is interested I will load into a drive and share them.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Regards, <br><br><br>Steven G. Lisa, Esq.<br>The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC<br>Email: SteveLisa@PatentIt.com <br>Direct: 480-442-0297<br><br><a href="http://www.PatentIt.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.PatentIt.com</a><br><br>Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656 | F: 480.535.6628 | A: 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260<br><br>Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357 | F: 312.896.5633 | A: 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603<br><br>This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 6:55 PM MICHAEL DREW <<a href="mailto:mikeldrew@aol.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mikeldrew@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Stupid autocorrect. <br>
<br>
Neither PROMPT or efficient…..<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
> On Jan 13, 2023, at 5:47 PM, MICHAEL DREW <<a href="mailto:mikeldrew@aol.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mikeldrew@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Steven,<br>
> <br>
> I spoke with Lloyd last week. ZF is neither promote nor efficient. There is a waiting list I believe is it would be some months. <br>
> <br>
> But then it would be right….<br>
> <br>
> Mike<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
> <br>
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Steve Lisa <<a href="mailto:stevelisa@patentit.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">stevelisa@patentit.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Yes, indeed -- hindsight is always 20-20. And,A yes, this is a<br>
>> frustrating (very) project.<br>
>> At the time, years ago when I was looking for a gearbox for my GT40,<br>
>> ZBT was for some reason, not a viableA option.A I am talking about<br>
>> 7-8-9 years ago,A when I wanted to upgrade theA GT40 from a Getrag.A<br>
>> It is beyond my ability to recall why, but ZBT turned out to be a dead<br>
>> option.A<br>
>> Even today, I clicked on ZBT's "gearbox" page and got a blank page<br>
>> --A [1]<a href="https://rbttrans.com/gearboxes/.A" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbttrans.com/gearboxes/.A</a> I clicked on their "service"<br>
>> page and got a blank page --A [2]<a href="https://rbttrans.com/home/service/.A" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbttrans.com/home/service/.A</a><br>
>> A So, it's not encouraging. But, I will call ZBT Tuesday, after the<br>
>> holiday, and see if I can get through and ask how long it will take and<br>
>> how much they are charging for their gearbox.A A<br>
>> In the meantime, I am fairly well deep into this Quaife project, and<br>
>> they seem willing to work with me (albeit with me spending more money<br>
>> thanA it should cost).A Again, hindsight is 20-20.A But, if ZBT is a<br>
>> promptA and efficient option, then I will pursue it in parallel.A I<br>
>> would very much appreciate knowingA from the forum the most recent<br>
>> purchase, install and price for a ZBT box.A A<br>
>> As always, I appreciate the knowledge and feedback from the forum.A<br>
>> Regards,A<br>
>> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.<br>
>> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC<br>
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>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 5:38 PM DENNIS ANTENUCCI<br>
>> <[4]<a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Let me second Markas number. In 25 years of endurance open road racing<br>
>> In the Pantera I completed 50 ORRas and never had a ZF over heating<br>
>> issue or failure.A<br>
>> The only time I remember anyone had a problem with the ZF in endurance<br>
>> racing was the time Junior Wilson got airborne in the hill sections<br>
>> where he got airborne at one point and his Pantera came down in gear<br>
>> and bent the input shaft.<br>
>> Dennis Antenucci<br>
>> Team Pantera Racing with a C8 nowd-<br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>> <br>
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 4:14 PM, mark skwarek <[5]<a href="mailto:ehpantera@yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ehpantera@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> i>>?<br>
>> While running SSCC in the 145 mph class, my ZF temp was 270 degrees<br>
>> after 90 miles. There were no modifications to the ZF, 3.77 gears, no<br>
>> cooler.<br>
>> Mark<br>
>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 06:10:46 PM EST, Steve Lisa<br>
>> <[6]<a href="mailto:stevelisa@patentit.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">stevelisa@patentit.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> A If the Quaife doesn't work this time around, we will be talking to<br>
>> A RBT.AA We went down this path because I had theA Quaife sitting in<br>
>> our<br>
>> A shop to install in our GT40 race car.AA After speaking to Quaife,<br>
>> they<br>
>> A sold be the upside down CWP and said it should bolt right in .....<br>
>> A You all know the rest of that story.AA I am told that current<br>
>> pricing<br>
>> A for the Quaife gearbox is a few thousand under the RBT, but I don't<br>
>> A know first hand.AA I bought it 6-7 years ago for the GT40, which<br>
>> has<br>
>> A been a project still.AA So,AA I re-puropsed it for the Pantera.A A<br>
>> A In hindsight, I should have kept the Quaife for the GT40 and bought<br>
>> an<br>
>> A RBT.AA Much cheaper than two DNF's and all the effort on the<br>
>> A Quaife.A A<br>
>> A Regards,A<br>
>> A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.<br>
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>> A On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:58 PM Julian Kift<br>
>> A <[2][9]<a href="mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">julian_kift@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> A A AA A It's a ZFQ, still only one Pantera application that I am<br>
>> aware<br>
>> A A of and<br>
>> A A AA A that's Steve Lisa's Gr3 race Pantera.<br>
>> A A AA A The ZFQ came about primarily to address the shortage of<br>
>> ZF's<br>
>> A A for the<br>
>> A A AA A GT40 crowd and as a cheaper alternative using Porsche<br>
>> A A internals. There<br>
>> A A AA A are plenty of threads on the GT40s.com forum attesting to<br>
>> the<br>
>> A A quality<br>
>> A A AA A (or lack thereof). Recently Quaife has beefed up the<br>
>> design,<br>
>> A A but I<br>
>> A A AA A think folks are still reporting failures, the latest I saw<br>
>> the<br>
>> A A case<br>
>> A A AA A literally split in two. The price has also crept up to that<br>
>> of<br>
>> A A a new<br>
>> A A AA A RBT ZF, with similar availability.<br>
>> A A AA A Julian<br>
>> A A AA A<br>
>> A A A<br>
>> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>> A A AA A From: DeTomaso<br>
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>> A A AA A Steven Edwards <[4][11]<a href="mailto:gsedwards@cox.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gsedwards@cox.net</a>><br>
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>> A A AA A Subject: [DeTomaso] transaxle info please<br>
>> A A AA A Any info on this transaxle? I got the picture some time ago<br>
>> and<br>
>> A A was<br>
>> A A AA A looking for a follow up.<br>
>> A A AA A Was talking to Dennis and he was interested in the brand<br>
>> name ,<br>
>> A A and<br>
>> A A AA A cost and any info on how it preforms.<br>
>> A A AA A I am sorry that I am getting too old to remember anything<br>
>> about<br>
>> A A this,<br>
>> A A AA A so any help will be appreciated.<br>
>> A A AA A Thanks<br>
>> A A AA A Steven Edwards<br>
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