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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 10, 2023 4:12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Carpenter <davecarp80138@outlook.com>; DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com>; Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Then we got a better trophy, top dawg in the highly contested 150 class</p>
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</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">TPR <tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of David Carpenter via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>David Carpenter <davecarp80138@outlook.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com>, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com>, Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">NICE trophy…..& WONDERFUL ALIEN MARKS ON ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Merriweather; color:#181818; background:white">“America will never be destroyed from the outside.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Merriweather; color:#181818; background:white">If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Merriweather; color:#181818"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#181818; background:white">―</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Merriweather; color:#181818; background:white"> </span><span class="x_authorortitle"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Lato",sans-serif; color:#333333; background:white">Abraham
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:red">“RIP Dan S. & Don H.</span></i><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></i></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">Larry Stock via TPR</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">DENNIS ANTENUCCI</a>; <a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">
Team Racing</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I just wanted a parachute attached to mt ass to ease me back to earth gently with the front end leading the way.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">It’s all about controlling the angle of attack,</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Those woop-te-doos leading into the canyon at below 140 are no problem, at 160 or better is a launch that will throw you, a la, Jr Wilson</p>
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</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com>, Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Now I know why you stopped ORR racing in Pantera’s! <span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"">
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Chris’ Bubble Wrap suggestion for the Pantera makes more sense.
<span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"">😂</span>. If ya don’t want to add a roll bar or cage just slow down. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">MD, who will slow down and never add a roll bar. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Adding more support everywhere like those NASCAR boys being enclosed in chromoly tubes or the Indy car Carbon fiber driver capsules all makes sense, but how safe is safe? I think you need to look at this in levels of safety protection
based on the design.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">A roll cage in a Pantera with that forward protection adds another level over just a roll bar. For Pantera safety, Personally speaking, I don’t see where a single Roll Bar will add much to what’s already built into the original Pantera
design. A roll cage will reinforce those rather weak windshield pillars greatly. That firewall shear panel coupled with the B Pillars and the Targa top hoop structure makes that middle of the car exceptionally strong. The Next greatest weakness in a Pantera
is reinforcing the doors for the side impact. Again, a Cage can be fashioned with side bars to reinforce the doors, so you can add another level of safety protection again with a cage.</p>
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</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">TPR <tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 8:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Great info on Pantera ….I do recall reading something about the B piller protection on the Pantera. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thanks for the reminder. Do you agree on need to add a roll bar for a Pantera for any endurance racing in upper Grand Touring Division?</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The engineered roof structure of the Pantera that comes up from the Door latching B Pillars* and behind the drivers head is a substantial roll over Targa top roof design. The front pillars are not so much, but that center box is a rather
substantial structural design. In a Pantera a Roll cage, makes more sense than a roll bar.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">*if not rusted out</p>
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</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">TPR <tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:16 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</span></p>
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<b>Date:</b> January 9, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM PST<br>
<b>To:</b> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Carpenter <davecarp80138@outlook.com>, Lee Pedersen <salemmotorsport@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I do too….it’s a GREAT idea….Mark already is planning to add one to his future C8.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I already have the answer for the C8 that already applies to C7’s and Vipers and others and that is what I am going with. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">GM provided position to NASA (North American Racing Association) and if it’s good enough for NASA it’s good enough for me but that’s just my personal opinion.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">And let me confirm again Mr President there is no as in zero roll over protection on the “Pantera”…we do agree on that….. As I said already the rules dictate that for a PANTERA you need a roll bar if you want to run in the Grand Touring
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Think it is an excellent rule. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Just a quick Internet search showed up a forum posting that indicated only the C8R has factory rollover protection for most track style events, not much on details though. Then I found a few high end vendors making roll bars and cages.
My guess is you’ll need to install something if you want to go faster.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">You know more Corvette racers then I do but it appears I am the FIRST to ask this “integrated roll protection on C8’s or Z06’s.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I have asked the SSCC message board and no replies yet…/also posted two requests to Corvette Forum and no response from any open road racers and Frank/SSCC says he doesn’t know of any C8 or Z06 roll over protection. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">No reason to….for several years they have been running C7’s etc in Grand Touring with NO roll bar.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Will see if anyone eventually answers SS message board or Corvette Blog…so far nothing</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">Asa Jay Laughton</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, January 9, 2023 4:15 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com">DENNIS ANTENUCCI</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:salemmotorsport@yahoo.com">Lee Pedersen</a><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">You should check last years results and maybe year before. See what speeds the C8’s were running and try to make direct contact.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thanks Asa….I just posted to Corvette Forum and specifically asked what spec has allowed earlier C7’s etc to allow not adding a aftermarket “roll bar”.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">And I added just saying the C8 does have an integrated bar (s) for Driver and passenger is NOT enough.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">It would appear I am the first person with a C8 to ask Frank at SS this question and no reply from my message board question either.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I got nuthin’ unless it’s in the owners manual. It would only make sense if they are promoting it for track use that it has a factory rollover system, but….</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Validation is the key. Best to check out any C8 forums and hope for the best.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I put a message on SSCC asking af anyone knew about C8 integrated bars for driver and passenger </p>
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<b>Date:</b> January 9, 2023 at 7:44:48 AM PST<br>
<b>To:</b> Team Racing <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>SSCC 2023 Rule book changes</b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Looks like another year with SA2015 helmet…..note his comment on belts and expiration of belts…</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">And I will check with Corvette Blog and Vegas Club guys if the C8 has an integrated bar.<br>
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<b>Date:</b> January 9, 2023 at 5:18:41 AM PST<br>
<b>To:</b> DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com><br>
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seat belts will expire on dec 31 of the expiration year written on the belts tag. <br>
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