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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>GUYS,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Caster is what makes your steering wheel return to and become neutral in a straight driving condition.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adding caster will make the Pantera more stable going in a straight line at speed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adding Caster will also give more front end grip cornering to a point, but will also make the car harder to steer into a corner and may tend to whip the steering wheel back into a straight running position.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stock Caster is about +2 degrees<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>ADD Offset front suspension bushings add 1-1/2 degrees<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shave the Upper Ball Joint and add a .100 shim, add 1 degree<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Without modify the A-Arms we can get about 4-1/2 degrees<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rear weight biased Porsche’s run 6-9 degrees of positive front caster<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Larry Stock<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Pantera Parts Connection LC</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>550 Mallory Way</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Carson City NV 89701</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>www.PanteraParts.com</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>PH 775-283-4411</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Fax 775-283-4410</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>TPR <tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of Charles Engles via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br><b>Reply-To: </b>Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:38 PM<br><b>To: </b>'DENNIS ANTENUCCI' <TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com><br><b>Cc: </b><tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Dennis,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> How much positive caster do you have now? I am keen to know if you will perceive a difference and improvement. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> I would note that our friend Tom Upton was running positive 5-7 degrees and he noted another bit of improvement with the SACC electric power steering unit. If Tom recommends power steering with big positive castor, then it might be a consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 04, 2022 2:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> tpr@teampanteraracing.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Afternoon TPR<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>FWIW <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>While I already purchased Johnny Woods modified A-Arms where I hope to get 5-7 degrees neg caster…..here is Larry’s mods where he got 4 to 4.5 neg caster. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com">Larry Stock</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, April 4, 2022 10:48 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">DENNIS ANTENUCCI</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: QUARTER WINDOW RUBBERS<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I got 4 & 4.5 degrees of caster with the offset bushings and shaving the upper front ball joint.<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=568 style='width:426.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:13.0pt'><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:61.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:13.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>02001P<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=53 valign=bottom style='width:40.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:13.0pt'></td><td width=348 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:261.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:13.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>PPC Front Upper Ball Joint Modified for + Caster<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=85 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:64.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:13.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>135.00<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal>I think the Pantera may want up to 6-9 degrees of front caster.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here are the A-Arm Sectioning and spacer photo’s I have you can work with.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Do you have ASA’s Address handy?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Larry Stock<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Pantera Parts Connection LC</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>550 Mallory Way</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Carson City NV 89701</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>www.PanteraParts.com</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>PH 775-283-4411</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Fax 775-283-4410</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have both, I assume you probably want a good used one.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Larry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding my Pantera underside downforce work, Here is an excerpt from<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/are-f1-and-nascar-manufacturing-drama/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_NA_EML_UN_SaturdayRoadTrip&hashed_email=fb1f43ec025e8215388f0ce0823a6e37e643701df67837453081ee2c33561ece"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/are-f1-and-nascar-manufacturing-drama/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_NA_EML_UN_SaturdayRoadTrip&hashed_email=fb1f43ec025e8215388f0ce0823a6e37e643701df67837453081ee2c33561ece</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#090A0B;background:white'>For the first time since the 1980s, when F1 cars resembled upside-down airplanes, ground effects are utilized in the aero regulations for the new car. Its floor has two large channels running front-to-back. Air travels under the vehicle and through the Venturi-shaped channels, which creates an area of low pressure and “sucks” the car to the track. Since the underside of the car provides much of the grip, the need for air on the wings to generate downforce is reduced. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ TPR mailing list TPR@teampanteraracing.com http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>