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I say.....<br>
Four Blondes, four redheads, dressed in nothing more than a tight
bikini, evenly spaced on each side of the engine, dribbling fuel in
from graduated cylinders. OH..... just the picture of that in my
head SCREAMS horsepower. That's gotta add at least 100 HP.<br>
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If you ask me -today- I'll probably say a balanced and tuned carb
from a pro shop, like competition carbs. Feed in the engine, trans,
final gear ratios and tire sizes... and out pops a carburetor that
seems to be born of the same DNA as the engine.<br>
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Ask me tomorrow, and I might multi-port Webers of the Fuel Injection
variety.<br>
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But honestly, try the blondes and redheads first. And get photos.
:)<br>
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Asa Jay<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2021 19:52, DENNIS ANTENUCCI
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Wota ya say Asa Master Wrench?
<div>Real men use Webers which is why I am using fuel
injection…..😂
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<div>Gotta say though and Lee knows this as well i have never
heard better tuned Webers either idling, in traffic or
racing then Randy Grubbs Pantera. He said he will for sure
be back to Ely next year to join us. </div>
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I have not decided on carb. Looking at
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<div>Holley 4150</div>
<div>Holley XP</div>
<div>Demon SPD750</div>
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<div>Anyone have ideas?</div>
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<div>My plan is to get the engine installed and running
with my existing carb. Then head to a chassis dyno to
get a reference and then swap carbs. So, I have some
time :)</div>
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DENNIS ANTENUCCI <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com"><TEAMPANTERA@yahoo.com></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Absolutely awesome
performance on the dyno. Thank you JB for
sharing specifics so unselfishly.<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>You are the Man. <o:p></o:p></b></p>
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with us what Carb you are adding?<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>Before I
went IR-EFI just adding a flowed and
balanced Holly (think it was 830cfm)
gained another 15-20 HP to my old 377ci
Cleveland stroker on chassis dyno and more
importantly for me drivability improved a
great deal. I think the added money is
worth it. You may not need it or want it
but its worth a consideration.<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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has taken a while, but I put together a
list of parts for my engine. The short
of it is; you can use your stock block,
crank, heads, flywheel, vibration
dampener, Pantera headers and still fit
it all under the screen while making
over 500 HP and have great efficiency.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Attached
is a plot and a table showing AFR and
BSFC. It is very efficient. Less than
0.3 at some RPM's!!! You can see the
AFR is a little messed up but you can
also see it in the HP plot around 4700.
The imbalance on each side is due to the
carb. I could not get a new carb
delivered to the shop before it was
removed from the dyno.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ford 4-bold main block<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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cylinders sleeved, Melling sleeves,
standard bore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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bores bushed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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restrictor kit installed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Standard
oil pump<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Iwis
(Germany) double roller timing chain and
gears<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ford 4-MA nodular iron crank<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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top Racetech custom forged pistons,
10.5:1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Custom
cam from Gromm Racing, 246/258 @ .050,
700 total valve lift, 112 LSA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Armondo
10-quart oil pan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Scat
forged H-beam rods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Stock
Ford flywheel, external balance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ford vibration dampener<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Stock
Ford 4V closed chamber iron heads,
ported/flowed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Blue
Thunder low profile dual-plane intake<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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collector Pantera headers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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0-4778 700CFM carb (has some issues)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ignition<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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477 ft/lb torque<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Gromm
Racing will sell this amazing cam if you
have a similar build or can supply a
complete engine. Give Semir a call for the
details<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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