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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>We keep the .100 shaved Upper Ball Joints in stock off the shelf.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Larry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>TPR <tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br><b>Reply-To: </b>DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:01 PM<br><b>To: </b>Pantera Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"tpr@teampanteraracing.com" <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TPR] Extended A arms<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Mike. I am good until Spring. But I will pass on to other guys on TPR. I for sure want those 6-7 degrees if we can get them. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dennis,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As an interim solution you can machine .100” off the back of the upper front ball joints and insert an extra .100” of shims on the front side. This will give you an extra degree or so. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 22, 2021, at 03:42, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Morning guys,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I got the extended rear A arms from Bobby before he passed. He thought the front offset delrin bushings would get enough caster for 150+ speeds. But at 3-4 it is NOT on those 2-lane roads at speed. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am a couple months away from needing the front A arms. In the meantime I appreciate the feedback.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Johnny,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Some cars suffer from excessive negative camber in the rear. Some vendors make adjustable upper rear A-arms which is super stupid. They are complex and extremely expensive. You don’t need adjustable rear arms, you only need fixed-length arms that are a bit longer. Then you can adjust alignment at the bottom, as normal. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Byars and Hall used to offer the less expensive, simpler version for half the cost, but with Bobby’s untimely death the source for producing them has been lost. :(<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 21, 2021, at 22:52, John Woods <johnnyrwoods@aol.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi Mike, Dennis, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I can do the arms. I charge £400 for the service, this includes a welded-on camber lock adjuster.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The cost to ship the arms back to you is £42.50<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Please make sure you mark the value way down when you ship them to me because we will have to pay something to HMRC when they arrive. I can theoretically I can claim this back as I am returning them to you, but it's so much paperwork it's not worth my time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>With original ball joints it is possible to get 7 degrees of castor, but I have found in the past Wilkinson's new ball joints don't have quite as mush sideways movement (misalignment) so 6 degrees may be more realistic with new joints; unless they vary from batch to batch?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>What mod do they do to the rear arms, Mike?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards, Johnny<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com><br>To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera@yahoo.com>; johnny@harlywax.co.uk<br>Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 3:33<br>Subject: Re: Extended A arms<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dennis,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Good hearing from you!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Yes Pat Mical taught Johnny Woods how to do the upper front A-arm modification. It’s not extended—you are thinking of the rear A-arms. Instead, the back leg is straightened. That allows much more caster. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ordinarily you would have to ship him your A-arms which he would convert and ship back to you, which would all take time. As luck would have it, I happen to have a set of his already modified arms sitting on my shelf. I could send them to you, you could send your old ones to him, he could modify those and then send them to me. And you would pay him for the conversion and shipping and pay me nothing. His does that sound?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 07:57, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <<a href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hey Brotha<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> How ya doing? Doing great and Asa and I driving back from SSCC road race where I averaged 144.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> One thing I am interested in doing is increasing caster to 6-7 + improve high speed stability. What is your take on that? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> Who sells them and what is cost? I have the offset bushings but all I have is 4-5. Its a bug improvement over stock but at 150++ it could use more. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> So until my C8 arrives share your genius. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> Pat Mical and Johnny Woods were names Doc Engles mentioned to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ TPR mailing list TPR@teampanteraracing.com http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>