<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_61031" dir="ltr">Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58923"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58935">Mad Dawg, does he pay for having them on car for road trips?? <img data-id="dc400106-10d8-a759-f616-5599478aacf1" src="https://s.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif" alt="*:) happy" title="*:) happy" class="yahoo-ignore-inline-image"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58924"> </div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58931" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58930" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58929" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58928" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58932" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Teampantera via TPR <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58934"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_58933" style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mark skwarek <ehpantera@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "laurieferrari@aol.com" <laurieferrari@aol.com>; "asajay@asajay.com" <asajay@asajay.com>; "tpr@teampanteraracing.com" <tpr@teampanteraracing.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 27, 2015 5:01 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_59222"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_59221" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TPR] KATCH IS ON BOARD RE: can you do the alphabet backwards if asked?<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_59084" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5501991824"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_59086"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438025554072_59085">Your awsome<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv5501991824yqt1553557332" id="yiv5501991824yqt11454"><div><br clear="none">On Jul 27, 2015, at 2:56 PM, mark skwarek via TPR <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div id="yiv5501991824yui_3_16_0_1_1438034019111_3849"><span id="yiv5501991824yui_3_16_0_1_1438034019111_4300">I still have his decal on since Sept. 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He is getting a lot of mileage with it. </span></div><div id="yiv5501991824yui_3_16_0_1_1438034019111_4749"><span></span><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv5501991824yui_3_16_0_1_1438034019111_4750"><span>Mark</span></div> <br clear="none"><div class="yiv5501991824qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv5501991824yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, July 27, 2015 4:21 PM, teampantera via TPR <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv5501991824y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5501991824"><div><div>Asa & TeamS,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I just had lunch with Paul Katchadorian who is president of Katch Environmental and he is again offering his sponsorship for us this year.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Okay, I may have offered more then Laurie is willing to do here for the team (as in take onen for the team).. but I said she will either be in her Pantera or mine...sorry Laurie but now we are all on the hook! I will be there for protection☺</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Paul also wants to tow your Pantera Laurie and will make sure you ride shotgun in his tow truck. Alao asked if you could cook Armenian and I said,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Of course she can...she cooks everything and JB has kitchen in the TPR Party Bus.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>He asked about JB and Peter and of course I lied and said they were also coming...just didn't say what they were driving. 😅</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Right now ROWDY I need to know how many KATCH ENVIRONMENTAL decals for SORC are needed as thst is coming up quick!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Paul's Graphics supplier will send decals direct to you ROWDY.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Good Times</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mad Dawg</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ps you can all thank me later</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="color:rgb(87, 87, 87);font-size:9px;">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com">laurieferrari@aol.com</a> </div><div>Date:07/27/2015 11:36 AM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a> </div><div>Subject: can you do the alphabet backwards if asked? </div><div><br clear="none"></div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="black" size="3">
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<span id="yiv5501991824yui_3_16_0_1_1437945477619_5098">okay so share your or Marks view on comparing the stock POS rack with this new Ferrari rack</span>
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Ah contrair mon frair,
<br clear="none">What we are doing is taking a Ferrari rack and -modifying- it, so it is
<br clear="none">-better- than a Ferrari rack, thereby making it (nearly) a stock
<br clear="none">DeTomaso Pantera rack.
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<br clear="none">Don't make me make Bullet hurt you.
<br clear="none">Asa Jay
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<br clear="none">On 7/25/2015 11:32 PM, TeamPantera via TPR wrote:
<br clear="none">> A Ferrari rack?
<br clear="none">> Are you kidding....your not stock anymore...and Mark got one too?
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<br clear="none">> Not even stock now huh..what CHEATERS ;-)
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<br clear="none">> Asa Jay Laughton via TPR<
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<br clear="none">>> My apologies, some of you will get this twice (once as POCA and once as TPR)
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<br clear="none">>> Hi all,
<br clear="none">>> Since I've not seen another real comparison yet, I figured I'd pop in
<br clear="none">>> here. Attached are all the photos that accompany this comparison.
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<br clear="none">>> I recently needed a steering rack to do a comparison with the one
<br clear="none">>> installed in my Pantera. This was because a friend drove the car and
<br clear="none">>> said he felt the rack was dangerous and should be fixed or replaced.
<br clear="none">>> The easiest thing to do was to make a comparison.
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<br clear="none">>> Peter (The German) Menyhart of The Whitehorse Ranch, fellow Pantera
<br clear="none">>> owner and racer, just happened to have one of the ebay Ferrari steering
<br clear="none">>> racks everyone has been talking about. He graciously shipped it to me
<br clear="none">>> so I could do my comparison. Peter is in the midst of a restoration
<br clear="none">>> project and is able to part with it for a while.
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<br clear="none">>> The rack is very well packaged in an oversize box. It does not come
<br clear="none">>> with tie-rod ends installed. The boots are a big larger than stock
<br clear="none">>> DeTomaso, and they are clamped on with those funny one-time use on the
<br clear="none">>> large end and a friction/spring on the small end.
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<br clear="none">>> The movement of the rack feels rather stiff, not as hard as the one out
<br clear="none">>> of my car but still not quite "like butter." However, you'll note from
<br clear="none">>> the photos the tension can be adjusted without the use of shims. I will
<br clear="none">>> work with that later. So far, one plus for this rack.
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<br clear="none">>> I took measurements of the tube diameter in the mounting bracket areas.
<br clear="none">>> The two tubes are within .005" at each location. The overall length is
<br clear="none">>> the same as my Pantera rack. The big difference, as has been mentioned,
<br clear="none">>> is in the drivers side bracket area which contains raised ribs for
<br clear="none">>> either side of the bracket.
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<br clear="none">>> Now, here is where I discovered something interesting. I was having a
<br clear="none">>> very difficult time getting a good reading with my inside calipers of
<br clear="none">>> that area. The bracket was easy to measure at 0.624" outside dimension
<br clear="none">>> but the space on both racks measured at about 0.555" in width and that
<br clear="none">>> didn't make sense.
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<br clear="none">>> Well, I had to put my grandpa glassed on, but found the reason. Nearly
<br clear="none">>> the entire ridge on the Pantera rack has a shoulder on it, that goes
<br clear="none">> >from about 0.055" at the bottom against the tube, to just under 0.624"
<br clear="none">>> at the outermost edge. Looking at the photos of the bracket you'll note
<br clear="none">>> it too has a bevel cut into the semi-circle. In my case the brackets
<br clear="none">>> still don't fit quite flush to the Pantera rack.
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<br clear="none">>> The brackets -don't- fit the Ferrari rack at all. You'll note from the
<br clear="none">>> close-up of that rack, there really isn't any bevel to it at all; it's
<br clear="none">>> nearly 0.555" from tube to outer edge. In order to get this to the
<br clear="none">>> 0.624" it needs to be to accept the brackets, I'll need to machine about
<br clear="none">>> .070" split more or less equally on both sides of the channel.
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<br clear="none">>> The last thing to note is that the tie-rods are a bit beefier. However,
<br clear="none">>> they -are- cut with the same diameter and thread as the Pantera rack.
<br clear="none">>> In the photo of the tie-rod ends, you see the Pantera rack with the lock
<br clear="none">>> nut on the tie-rod end, and a used/spare/old Pantera tie rod threaded
<br clear="none">>> onto the Ferrari rack.
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<br clear="none">>> So there you have it. The rack is nearly identical with the exception
<br clear="none">>> of beefier tie-rods (good thing), adjustable tension adjust (good
<br clear="none">>> thing), and narrow mounting bracket channel (bad thing but workable).
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<br clear="none">>> Mark Skwarek recently did one of these for his Pantera as well and used
<br clear="none">>> an end mill with the rack mounted in a vise, cutting a path, turning the
<br clear="none">>> rack and cutting again until he got all the way around. That's probably
<br clear="none">>> what I'll do as well.
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<br clear="none">>> The best thing would be to completely disassemble the rack and chuck it
<br clear="none">>> up on a lathe, but I really don't want to take it apart; after all, it's
<br clear="none">>> not really my rack. :)
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<br clear="none">>> There, any questions?
<br clear="none">>> Asa Jay
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<br clear="none">>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
<br clear="none">>> & Shelley Marie
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