<p>What am I missing here?</p>
<p>Anyone ever see MF at the SORC? Or anyone see him register and enter and run the NORC or Silver State?</p>
<p>What about the Pony Express, or the Gamblers Run or Bonneville 100 or wait a minute...</p>
<p>Isnt this the same guy who told Mike Anderson and I in Vegas that he served in SF and Vietnam yet he couldnt answer where he served or with whom he served. Then he said he was a chopper pilot. Zzzzzzz</p>
<p>Everyone likes a good bullshit story but this guy is a total fraud.</p>
<p>David in Durango <adin@frontier.net> wrote:</p>
<p>>IMO: SORC is quite dangerous. BBORR is more fun, more run-0ff.<br>
><br>
>I am ready to run - see you at BBORR 2015!<br>
><br>
>David in Durango<br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <br>
> To: tpr@teampanteraracing.com <br>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:09 PM<br>
> Subject: [TPR] Big Bend Open Road Race<br>
><br>
><br>
> I recently posted to the DeTomaso email forum a question regarding who was going to the Big Bend Open Road Race.<br>
><br>
> After receiving a response from Michael Frazier, I thought something needed to be said for our friends who have been running SORC. You can read the email trail below.<br>
><br>
> Later today, a new response from Michael Frazier came in, it can be read here:<br>
> http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/2014-April/225691.html<br>
><br>
> I'm not going to honor that with a response as I think it shows irresponsibility on a few levels, and he's entitled to his opinion. I never said BBORR was a bad race. Nuff said.<br>
><br>
> Asa Jay<br>
><br>
> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Big Bend Open Road Race <br>
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 06:46:48 -0700 <br>
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> <br>
> To: detomaso@poca.com <br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Big Bend may be a good race, but I'm not certain it really has anything<br>
> on the Sandhills Open Road Challenge with it's narrow road, grass<br>
> shoulders and no run off room. There have been Panteras running in<br>
> that event consistently for several years now without fail. The team<br>
> lineup may vary year to year due to their restricted entry system but<br>
> someone has been there. Between Bob Radefeld, Bud Hower and Mark<br>
> Skwarek, I think they've done more ORR than the rest of us combined in<br>
> the last five years. Bud even drove out to SSCC a few years ago, and<br>
> although Mark's new engine wasn't ready, he flew out to spend last<br>
> year's SSCC with the team as well.<br>
> I realize BBORR is far removed from the rest of the country due to the<br>
> shear size of Texas, but it's like you have your own Open Road Race<br>
> right there in your back yard, and there hasn't been a Pantera entered<br>
> in over two years? I'm sure for you it seems like the best of the<br>
> bunch; it's the only one you've really driven at speed.<br>
> Asa Jay<br>
>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>& Shelley Marie<br>
>Spokane, WA<br>
>******************************<br>
>[1]http://www.racingagainstautism.com<br>
>[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com<br>
>[3]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<br>
><br>
> On 4/8/2014 8:53 PM, michael frazier wrote:<br>
><br>
> It's been more than 2 years. My car is going back together and will be<br>
> there in 2015.<br>
> I'd really like to put another group together like we did a few years<br>
> ago. We had 10<br>
> Panteras and filled a table with really hard to come by trophies.<br>
> I just recently had the chance to see and drive the Sandhills course<br>
> while touring the local<br>
> missile fields... did the Silver State drive not long ago while at<br>
> Nellis. I'm just glad<br>
> BBORR is only 300 miles from me, it's easily the best road of the<br>
> bunch. I 'll be there<br>
> again this year with a group of Vettes and this is my 4th year as an<br>
> instructor and<br>
> qualifier for the rookie school. That's the scary part.<br>
> Hope to see some of you there for the '15 race.<br>
> Michael Frazier<br>
> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa<br>
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:55:14 -0700<br>
> > From: [4]asajay@asajay.com<br>
> > To: [5]detomaso@poca.com<br>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Big Bend Open Road Race<br>
> ><br>
> > Team Pantera Racing has not heard from -anyone- in shouting distance<br>
> of<br>
> > the BBORR this year. Will there be even -one- Pantera? Say it ain't<br>
> > so. That would make two years in a row if I recall correctly.<br>
> ><br>
> > Asa Jay<br>
> ><br>
> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
> > & Shelley Marie<br>
> > Spokane, WA<br>
> > ******************************<br>
> > [6]http://www.racingagainstautism.com<br>
> > [7]http://www.teampanteraracing.com<br>
> > [8]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<br>
><br>
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<DIV>IMO: SORC is quite dangerous. BBORR is more fun, more run-0ff.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [TPR] Big Bend Open Road
Race</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I recently posted to the DeTomaso email forum a question
regarding who was going to the Big Bend Open Road Race.<BR><BR>After receiving
a response from Michael Frazier, I thought something needed to be said for our
friends who have been running SORC. You can read the email trail
below.<BR><BR>Later today, a new response from Michael Frazier came in, it can
be read here:<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/2014-April/225691.html">http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/2014-April/225691.html</A><BR><BR>I'm
not going to honor that with a response as I think it shows irresponsibility
on a few levels, and he's entitled to his opinion. I never said
BBORR was a bad race. Nuff said.<BR><BR>Asa Jay<BR><BR>--------
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<TD>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 06:46:48 -0700</TD></TR>
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<TD><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
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on the Sandhills Open Road Challenge with it's narrow road, grass
shoulders and no run off room. There have been Panteras running in
that event consistently for several years now without fail. The team
lineup may vary year to year due to their restricted entry system but
someone has been there. Between Bob Radefeld, Bud Hower and Mark
Skwarek, I think they've done more ORR than the rest of us combined in
the last five years. Bud even drove out to SSCC a few years ago, and
although Mark's new engine wasn't ready, he flew out to spend last
year's SSCC with the team as well.
I realize BBORR is far removed from the rest of the country due to the
shear size of Texas, but it's like you have your own Open Road Race
right there in your back yard, and there hasn't been a Pantera entered
in over two years? I'm sure for you it seems like the best of the
bunch; it's the only one you've really driven at speed.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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[3]<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</A>
On 4/8/2014 8:53 PM, michael frazier wrote:
It's been more than 2 years. My car is going back together and will be
there in 2015.
I'd really like to put another group together like we did a few years
ago. We had 10
Panteras and filled a table with really hard to come by trophies.
I just recently had the chance to see and drive the Sandhills course
while touring the local
missile fields... did the Silver State drive not long ago while at
Nellis. I'm just glad
BBORR is only 300 miles from me, it's easily the best road of the
bunch. I 'll be there
again this year with a group of Vettes and this is my 4th year as an
instructor and
qualifier for the rookie school. That's the scary part.
Hope to see some of you there for the '15 race.
Michael Frazier
Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:55:14 -0700
> From: [<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:4]asajay@asajay.com">4]asajay@asajay.com</A>
> To: [<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:5]detomaso@poca.com">5]detomaso@poca.com</A>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Big Bend Open Road Race
>
> Team Pantera Racing has not heard from -anyone- in shouting distance
of
> the BBORR this year. Will there be even -one- Pantera? Say it ain't
> so. That would make two years in a row if I recall correctly.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
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> [7]<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</A>
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