<p>Thats wot you get for listening to Jack! OR was it deviating from Jacks directions? ;-)</p>
<p>Never mind just cut it to fit and get the screws back and seal the hatch cover with some alum tape...you can have an upolstry shop fix the top cover later if you run out of time...i personally leave the center upolstery piece cover off</p>
<p>Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> wrote:</p>
<p>>I nearly followed Jack's article in the January 2006 newsletter to a T, <br>
>in order to make my one piece firewall cover into a two-piece. The only <br>
>deviation I made was to make the top cut right where the fiberglass <br>
>transitioned from the bubble to the padded roll area, instead of a half <br>
>inch -below- which the article recommended. I wanted as much clearance <br>
>as possible to get the hatch back in, so I made the cut higher.<br>
><br>
>NOW... I can't get my hatch in place because the top interferes. The <br>
>width is correct and clears nicely, but the very bottom of the padded <br>
>roll is in the way by about a quarter inch from getting the top of the <br>
>hatch in place. I'm stuck now and not exactly sure how I'm going to <br>
>proceed. I may have to remove another quarter inch from the padded roll <br>
>but then my bubble will be short and the padded roll will look funky <br>
>with a kind of -rise- on the bottom in the center. I'll have to play <br>
>with it a bit more. I have a 1973 L model. Not sure how different it <br>
>is from earlier models this mod has been done on.<br>
><br>
>But, I'm not too happy about it.<br>
><br>
>Of course... it was the -last- thing I tried tonight, after installing <br>
>the roll bar and harnesses. Yes, I installed the bolts from the inside <br>
>out, so the nuts show on the outside and they've all been <br>
>double-nutted. The opening in the hatch looked big enough so I didn't <br>
>worry about a test fit. Now I might regret it. It took me about two <br>
>hours to get the roll bar and harnesses installed. If I have to take it <br>
>all back out, it should be less time, as the harnesses are already <br>
>attached now (looped over the tubing) and I've got the method down for <br>
>installing the bolts in the rockers.<br>
><br>
><sigh><br>
><br>
>I have an all day trip to Portland tomorrow. I catch a plane at 6AM and <br>
>don't get home till after 10PM. No work on the car tomorrow. I was <br>
>hoping to drive it to work on Wednesday, but now that I can't get the <br>
>hatch in place, I won't be able to. I'll have to do a -lot- of driving <br>
>this weekend to catch up on my break-in miles.<br>
><br>
>Asa Jay<br>
><br>
>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>& Shelley Marie<br>
>Spokane, WA<br>
>******************************<br>
>http://www.racingagainstautism.com<br>
>http://www.teampanteraracing.com<br>
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><br>
><br>
>On 8/26/2012 2:43 PM, bob Radefeld wrote:<br>
>> Ahh, YES. That fact momentarily escaped me!! :o((<br>
>> Rowdy<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com <br>
>> <mailto:asajay@asajay.com>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> & Shelley Marie<br>
>> Spokane, WA<br>
>> ******************************<br>
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/><br>
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/><br>
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 8/26/2012 10:02 AM, Teampantera wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Keep us out of trouble?<br>
>>> TIGGGA PLEEEEAZE....we're gonnabe popping his cherry<br>
>>><br>
>>> bob Radefeld <bob@radefeld.com> <mailto:bob@radefeld.com> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> >Way to go Asa, you're really cook'in with gas now!! BTW, I did<br>
>>> Jack's two<br>
>>> >piece conversion on my car a few years back & yea, it was a PIA<br>
>>> project! If<br>
>>> >you run into any problems with mounting the bubble back on to<br>
>>> the engine<br>
>>> >cover feel free to e-mail or give me a shout & I'll try & help<br>
>>> if I can. In<br>
>>> >the meanwhile, keep plugging away so you can be @ SSCC to keep<br>
>>> Dawgy &<br>
>>> >the boys out of trouble!! :o))<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >Rowdy<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM, B Hower<br>
>>> <b.hower3400@yahoo.com> <mailto:b.hower3400@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> Glad to here it is going well ------- I know you put in lots<br>
>>> of effort<br>
>>> >> and hours.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Bud #3400<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> --- On *Sat, 8/25/12, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com><br>
>>> <mailto:asajay@asajay.com>* wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com><br>
>>> <mailto:asajay@asajay.com><br>
>>> >> Subject: [TPR] ... and it's another Saturday in the history books.<br>
>>> >> To: tpr@teampanteraracing.com <mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
>>> >> Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 11:00 PM<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Today, I took the plunge of hacking up my perfectly good<br>
>>> (well not<br>
>>> >> -perfectly- good, but you get the idea) firewall cover. Using the<br>
>>> >> instructions provided by Jack DeRyke in the POCA newsletter,<br>
>>> January 2006<br>
>>> >> edition, I cut the bubble out of my firewall cover. <gasp><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Well, I -had- planned on keeping it in one piece for<br>
>>> posterity, but being<br>
>>> >> a bit cheap these days decided to go ahead and try for a<br>
>>> two-piece. If I<br>
>>> >> ever want to have a one piece again... I'll buy one later.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> It was -not- as easy as Jack made it out to be. In my case, I<br>
>>> had to<br>
>>> >> remove the entire surround trim that goes up one side, across<br>
>>> the top and<br>
>>> >> down the other side. There was no way for me to remove the<br>
>>> vinyl at the<br>
>>> >> top of the bubble without doing so. -That- is a pain in the<br>
>>> ass job.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Once I got that off, the rest went pretty easy. I hope I got<br>
>>> it cut in<br>
>>> >> the right place, because it's a done deal now. I've not tried<br>
>>> it in the<br>
>>> >> car yet; it's after quitting time for today. I got the trim<br>
>>> back on the<br>
>>> >> main panel and tried to glue the vinyl wrapped on the<br>
>>> backside. Tomorrow<br>
>>> >> I'll wrap and glue the bubble, then try it all out for size.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I also drilled the shoulder bolt holes in the rear hoop of my<br>
>>> cage.<br>
>>> >> I also picked up a 10" air cleaner from Napa, cheap, and will<br>
>>> run it until<br>
>>> >> I can get the proper sized/shaped one from K&N. Oh, and with<br>
>>> that, Shelley<br>
>>> >> and I put the deck lid on too.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Monday, I start driving it to work daily to get the engine<br>
>>> broken in.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Asa Jay<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>>> >> & Shelley Marie<br>
>>> >> Spokane, WA<br>
>>> >> ******************************<br>
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.comhttp://www.teampanteraracing.comhttp://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<br>
>>> <http://www.racingagainstautism.comhttp//www.teampanteraracing.comhttp://facebook.com/racingagainstautism><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On 8/24/2012 9:04 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Shelley, Sam and I just got back from a three day vacation in<br>
>>> the woods<br>
>>> >> near the south end of Lake Coeur d' Alene, at Heyburn State<br>
>>> Park. A small<br>
>>> >> 12'x12' cabin, one room, bunk beds. Out door flushless toilet<br>
>>> (read that<br>
>>> >> as *Outhouse*), no showers, but luckily a standpipe with cool<br>
>>> clear fresh<br>
>>> >> water.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> It's all good, we've had our showers now that we're home. :)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Back to the Pantera.<br>
>>> >> It suddenly hit me sometime yesterday. I can't put my deck<br>
>>> lid on,<br>
>>> >> because the air cleaner is now too high. It's not a matter of<br>
>>> wanting to<br>
>>> >> put the engine screen on, no... it's a matter of the 14" air<br>
>>> filter sticks<br>
>>> >> out past the deck lid line by about an inch and a half. When<br>
>>> I had the<br>
>>> >> stock manifold on it was no problem, the air filter fit tight<br>
>>> -under- the<br>
>>> >> decklid. Now with the aluminum dual-plane FPP-4145 plus a<br>
>>> half-inch<br>
>>> >> spacer, the whole thing is too tall by about an inch.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> DRAT!<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> It's always something isn't it? heheheh<br>
>>> >> Three options come readily to mind. (not to mention the<br>
>>> dogbone air<br>
>>> >> cleaner which I honestly just don't like the looks of).<br>
>>> >> Option 1, offset base plate for the air filter, also the least<br>
>>> expensive,<br>
>>> >> and possibly can be sourced locally:<br>
>>> >> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Option 2, Triangular K&N filter assembly, 14" diameter but we<br>
>>> all know how<br>
>>> >> the geometry of a triangle works, right? We'd simply point<br>
>>> this toward the<br>
>>> >> window, leaving the flat edge parallel to and a half inch or<br>
>>> so from the<br>
>>> >> leading edge of the deck lid:<br>
>>> >> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Option 3, an oval air cleaner, mount it sideways, valve cover<br>
>>> to valve<br>
>>> >> cover. I don't know this option has as much CFM capacity though:<br>
>>> >> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I'll be calling around Spokane tomorrow to see if I can source<br>
>>> the offset<br>
>>> >> base; cheapest and easiest. Then, I'll begin work on turning<br>
>>> my one-piece<br>
>>> >> firewall cover into a two-piece firewall cover. I have no<br>
>>> reason to<br>
>>> >> believe that won't go well, so then the next item will be to<br>
>>> get the roll<br>
>>> >> cage rear hoop in place, drill the holes for the shoulder<br>
>>> bolts (the stock<br>
>>> >> attach point) and maybe bolt it in place. I say maybe because<br>
>>> if I can get<br>
>>> >> a friend to help fix the drivers side hoop connection holes,<br>
>>> maybe I'll<br>
>>> >> take it all in for powder coating and install the whole<br>
>>> thing. I also need<br>
>>> >> to look at sourcing some roll bar padding. I guess I better<br>
>>> start looking<br>
>>> >> that up now. :)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I think vacation is over.<br>
>>> >> Asa Jay<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> --<br>
>>> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>>> >> & Shelley Marie<br>
>>> >> Spokane, WA<br>
>>> >> ******************************<br>
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>>> Way to go Asa, you're really cook'in with gas now!! BTW, I did<br>
>>> Jack's two piece conversion on my car a few years back & yea, it<br>
>>> was a PIA project! If you run into any problems with mounting the<br>
>>> bubble back on to the engine cover feel free to e-mail or give me<br>
>>> a shout & I'll try & help if I can. In the meanwhile, keep<br>
>>> plugging away so you can be @ SSCC to keep Dawgy & the boys out<br>
>>> of trouble!! :o))<br>
>>> Rowdy<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM, B Hower <b.hower3400@yahoo.com<br>
>>> <mailto:b.hower3400@yahoo.com>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Glad to here it is going well ------- I know you put in lots<br>
>>> of effort and hours.<br>
>>> Bud #3400<br>
>>><br>
>>> --- On *Sat, 8/25/12, Asa Jay Laughton /<asajay@asajay.com<br>
>>> <mailto:asajay@asajay.com>>/* wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com<br>
>>> <mailto:asajay@asajay.com>><br>
>>> Subject: [TPR] ... and it's another Saturday in the<br>
>>> history books.<br>
>>> To: tpr@teampanteraracing.com<br>
>>> <mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br>
>>> Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 11:00 PM<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Today, I took the plunge of hacking up my perfectly good<br>
>>> (well not -perfectly- good, but you get the idea)<br>
>>> firewall cover. Using the instructions provided by Jack<br>
>>> DeRyke in the POCA newsletter, January 2006 edition, I<br>
>>> cut the bubble out of my firewall cover. <gasp><br>
>>><br>
>>> Well, I -had- planned on keeping it in one piece for<br>
>>> posterity, but being a bit cheap these days decided to go<br>
>>> ahead and try for a two-piece. If I ever want to have a<br>
>>> one piece again... I'll buy one later.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It was -not- as easy as Jack made it out to be. In my<br>
>>> case, I had to remove the entire surround trim that goes<br>
>>> up one side, across the top and down the other side. <br>
>>> There was no way for me to remove the vinyl at the top of<br>
>>> the bubble without doing so. -That- is a pain in the ass<br>
>>> job.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Once I got that off, the rest went pretty easy. I hope I<br>
>>> got it cut in the right place, because it's a done deal<br>
>>> now. I've not tried it in the car yet; it's after<br>
>>> quitting time for today. I got the trim back on the main<br>
>>> panel and tried to glue the vinyl wrapped on the<br>
>>> backside. Tomorrow I'll wrap and glue the bubble, then<br>
>>> try it all out for size.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I also drilled the shoulder bolt holes in the rear hoop<br>
>>> of my cage.<br>
>>> I also picked up a 10" air cleaner from Napa, cheap, and<br>
>>> will run it until I can get the proper sized/shaped one<br>
>>> from K&N. Oh, and with that, Shelley and I put the deck<br>
>>> lid on too.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Monday, I start driving it to work daily to get the<br>
>>> engine broken in.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Asa Jay<br>
>>><br>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>>> & Shelley Marie<br>
>>> Spokane, WA<br>
>>> ******************************<br>
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/><br>
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/><br>
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 8/24/2012 9:04 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:<br>
>>>> Shelley, Sam and I just got back from a three day<br>
>>>> vacation in the woods near the south end of Lake Coeur<br>
>>>> d' Alene, at Heyburn State Park. A small 12'x12' cabin,<br>
>>>> one room, bunk beds. Out door flushless toilet (read<br>
>>>> that as _/Outhouse/_), no showers, but luckily a<br>
>>>> standpipe with cool clear fresh water.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It's all good, we've had our showers now that we're<br>
>>>> home. :)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Back to the Pantera.<br>
>>>> It suddenly hit me sometime yesterday. I can't put my<br>
>>>> deck lid on, because the air cleaner is now too high. <br>
>>>> It's not a matter of wanting to put the engine screen<br>
>>>> on, no... it's a matter of the 14" air filter sticks out<br>
>>>> past the deck lid line by about an inch and a half. <br>
>>>> When I had the stock manifold on it was no problem, the<br>
>>>> air filter fit tight -under- the decklid. Now with the<br>
>>>> aluminum dual-plane FPP-4145 plus a half-inch spacer,<br>
>>>> the whole thing is too tall by about an inch.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> DRAT!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It's always something isn't it? heheheh<br>
>>>> Three options come readily to mind. (not to mention the<br>
>>>> dogbone air cleaner which I honestly just don't like the<br>
>>>> looks of).<br>
>>>> Option 1, offset base plate for the air filter, also the<br>
>>>> least expensive, and possibly can be sourced locally:<br>
>>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Option 2, Triangular K&N filter assembly, 14" diameter<br>
>>>> but we all know how the geometry of a triangle works,<br>
>>>> right? We'd simply point this toward the window,<br>
>>>> leaving the flat edge parallel to and a half inch or so<br>
>>>> from the leading edge of the deck lid:<br>
>>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Option 3, an oval air cleaner, mount it sideways, valve<br>
>>>> cover to valve cover. I don't know this option has as<br>
>>>> much CFM capacity though:<br>
>>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'll be calling around Spokane tomorrow to see if I can<br>
>>>> source the offset base; cheapest and easiest. Then,<br>
>>>> I'll begin work on turning my one-piece firewall cover<br>
>>>> into a two-piece firewall cover. I have no reason to<br>
>>>> believe that won't go well, so then the next item will<br>
>>>> be to get the roll cage rear hoop in place, drill the<br>
>>>> holes for the shoulder bolts (the stock attach point)<br>
>>>> and maybe bolt it in place. I say maybe because if I<br>
>>>> can get a friend to help fix the drivers side hoop<br>
>>>> connection holes, maybe I'll take it all in for powder<br>
>>>> coating and install the whole thing. I also need to<br>
>>>> look at sourcing some roll bar padding. I guess I<br>
>>>> better start looking that up now. :)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think vacation is over.<br>
>>>> Asa Jay<br>
>>>> -- <br>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>>>> & Shelley Marie<br>
>>>> Spokane, WA<br>
>>>> ******************************<br>
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I nearly followed Jack's article in the January 2006 newsletter to a
T, in order to make my one piece firewall cover into a two-piece.
The only deviation I made was to make the top cut right where the
fiberglass transitioned from the bubble to the padded roll area,
instead of a half inch -below- which the article recommended. I
wanted as much clearance as possible to get the hatch back in, so I
made the cut higher.<br>
<br>
NOW... I can't get my hatch in place because the top interferes.
The width is correct and clears nicely, but the very bottom of the
padded roll is in the way by about a quarter inch from getting the
top of the hatch in place. I'm stuck now and not exactly sure how
I'm going to proceed. I may have to remove another quarter inch
from the padded roll but then my bubble will be short and the padded
roll will look funky with a kind of -rise- on the bottom in the
center. I'll have to play with it a bit more. I have a 1973 L
model. Not sure how different it is from earlier models this mod
has been done on.<br>
<br>
But, I'm not too happy about it.<br>
<br>
Of course... it was the -last- thing I tried tonight, after
installing the roll bar and harnesses. Yes, I installed the bolts
from the inside out, so the nuts show on the outside and they've all
been double-nutted. The opening in the hatch looked big enough so I
didn't worry about a test fit. Now I might regret it. It took me
about two hours to get the roll bar and harnesses installed. If I
have to take it all back out, it should be less time, as the
harnesses are already attached now (looped over the tubing) and I've
got the method down for installing the bolts in the rockers.<br>
<br>
<sigh><br>
<br>
I have an all day trip to Portland tomorrow. I catch a plane at 6AM
and don't get home till after 10PM. No work on the car tomorrow. I
was hoping to drive it to work on Wednesday, but now that I can't
get the hatch in place, I won't be able to. I'll have to do a -lot-
of driving this weekend to catch up on my break-in miles.<br>
<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 8/26/2012 2:43 PM, bob Radefeld wrote:
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cite="mid:CA+4z8QDNcpKPf4B6z3NN2wz4-VABfNOODBk0MdcOxVtUvnwAZA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div> </div>
<div><font size="4">Ahh, YES. That fact momentarily escaped me!!
:o((</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="4">Rowdy</font></div>
<div><br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Asa Jay
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<pre cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
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On 8/26/2012 10:02 AM, Teampantera wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>Keep us out of trouble?<br>
TIGGGA PLEEEEAZE....we're gonnabe popping his cherry</p>
<p>bob Radefeld <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bob@radefeld.com" target="_blank"><bob@radefeld.com></a>
wrote:</p>
<p>>Way to go Asa, you're really cook'in with gas now!!
BTW, I did Jack's two<br>
>piece conversion on my car a few years back &
yea, it was a PIA project! If<br>
>you run into any problems with mounting the bubble
back on to the engine<br>
>cover feel free to e-mail or give me a shout &
I'll try & help if I can. In<br>
>the meanwhile, keep plugging away so you can be @
SSCC to keep Dawgy &<br>
>the boys out of trouble!! :o))<br>
><br>
>Rowdy<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM, B Hower <a
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href="mailto:b.hower3400@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><b.hower3400@yahoo.com></a>
wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Glad to here it is going well ------- I know
you put in lots of effort<br>
>> and hours.<br>
>><br>
>> Bud #3400<br>
>><br>
>> --- On *Sat, 8/25/12, Asa Jay Laughton <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"
target="_blank"><asajay@asajay.com></a>* wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"
target="_blank"><asajay@asajay.com></a><br>
>> Subject: [TPR] ... and it's another Saturday in
the history books.<br>
>> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>> Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 11:00 PM<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Today, I took the plunge of hacking up my
perfectly good (well not<br>
>> -perfectly- good, but you get the idea)
firewall cover. Using the<br>
>> instructions provided by Jack DeRyke in the
POCA newsletter, January 2006<br>
>> edition, I cut the bubble out of my firewall
cover. <gasp><br>
>><br>
>> Well, I -had- planned on keeping it in one
piece for posterity, but being<br>
>> a bit cheap these days decided to go ahead and
try for a two-piece. If I<br>
>> ever want to have a one piece again... I'll buy
one later.<br>
>><br>
>> It was -not- as easy as Jack made it out to
be. In my case, I had to<br>
>> remove the entire surround trim that goes up
one side, across the top and<br>
>> down the other side. There was no way for me
to remove the vinyl at the<br>
>> top of the bubble without doing so. -That- is
a pain in the ass job.<br>
>><br>
>> Once I got that off, the rest went pretty
easy. I hope I got it cut in<br>
>> the right place, because it's a done deal now.
I've not tried it in the<br>
>> car yet; it's after quitting time for today. I
got the trim back on the<br>
>> main panel and tried to glue the vinyl wrapped
on the backside. Tomorrow<br>
>> I'll wrap and glue the bubble, then try it all
out for size.<br>
>><br>
>> I also drilled the shoulder bolt holes in the
rear hoop of my cage.<br>
>> I also picked up a 10" air cleaner from Napa,
cheap, and will run it until<br>
>> I can get the proper sized/shaped one from
K&N. Oh, and with that, Shelley<br>
>> and I put the deck lid on too.<br>
>><br>
>> Monday, I start driving it to work daily to get
the engine broken in.<br>
>><br>
>> Asa Jay<br>
>><br>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> & Shelley Marie<br>
>> Spokane, WA<br>
>> ****************************** <a
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>><br>
>> On 8/24/2012 9:04 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Shelley, Sam and I just got back from a three
day vacation in the woods<br>
>> near the south end of Lake Coeur d' Alene, at
Heyburn State Park. A small<br>
>> 12'x12' cabin, one room, bunk beds. Out door
flushless toilet (read that<br>
>> as *Outhouse*), no showers, but luckily a
standpipe with cool clear fresh<br>
>> water.<br>
>><br>
>> It's all good, we've had our showers now that
we're home. :)<br>
>><br>
>> Back to the Pantera.<br>
>> It suddenly hit me sometime yesterday. I can't
put my deck lid on,<br>
>> because the air cleaner is now too high. It's
not a matter of wanting to<br>
>> put the engine screen on, no... it's a matter
of the 14" air filter sticks<br>
>> out past the deck lid line by about an inch and
a half. When I had the<br>
>> stock manifold on it was no problem, the air
filter fit tight -under- the<br>
>> decklid. Now with the aluminum dual-plane
FPP-4145 plus a half-inch<br>
>> spacer, the whole thing is too tall by about an
inch.<br>
>><br>
>> DRAT!<br>
>><br>
>> It's always something isn't it? heheheh<br>
>> Three options come readily to mind. (not to
mention the dogbone air<br>
>> cleaner which I honestly just don't like the
looks of).<br>
>> Option 1, offset base plate for the air filter,
also the least expensive,<br>
>> and possibly can be sourced locally:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10"
target="_blank">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10</a><br>
>><br>
>> Option 2, Triangular K&N filter assembly,
14" diameter but we all know how<br>
>> the geometry of a triangle works, right? We'd
simply point this toward the<br>
>> window, leaving the flat edge parallel to and a
half inch or so from the<br>
>> leading edge of the deck lid:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10"
target="_blank">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10</a><br>
>><br>
>> Option 3, an oval air cleaner, mount it
sideways, valve cover to valve<br>
>> cover. I don't know this option has as much
CFM capacity though:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10"
target="_blank">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10</a><br>
>><br>
>> I'll be calling around Spokane tomorrow to see
if I can source the offset<br>
>> base; cheapest and easiest. Then, I'll begin
work on turning my one-piece<br>
>> firewall cover into a two-piece firewall
cover. I have no reason to<br>
>> believe that won't go well, so then the next
item will be to get the roll<br>
>> cage rear hoop in place, drill the holes for
the shoulder bolts (the stock<br>
>> attach point) and maybe bolt it in place. I
say maybe because if I can get<br>
>> a friend to help fix the drivers side hoop
connection holes, maybe I'll<br>
>> take it all in for powder coating and install
the whole thing. I also need<br>
>> to look at sourcing some roll bar padding. I
guess I better start looking<br>
>> that up now. :)<br>
>><br>
>> I think vacation is over.<br>
>> Asa Jay<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> & Shelley Marie<br>
>> Spokane, WA<br>
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<div><font size="4">Way to go Asa, you're really cook'in
with gas now!! BTW, I did Jack's two piece conversion
on my car a few years back & yea, it was a PIA
project! If you run into any problems with mounting
the bubble back on to the engine cover feel free to
e-mail or give me a shout & I'll try & help if
I can. In the meanwhile, keep plugging away so you can
be @ SSCC to keep Dawgy & the boys out of
trouble!! :o))</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="4">Rowdy</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM,
B Hower <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
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<div>Glad to here it is going well ------- I
know you put in lots of effort and hours.</div>
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<div>Bud #3400<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Sat, 8/25/12, Asa Jay Laughton <i><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"
target="_blank">asajay@asajay.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid
rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px;
margin-left: 5px;"><br>
From: Asa Jay Laughton <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"
target="_blank">asajay@asajay.com</a>><br>
Subject: [TPR] ... and it's another Saturday
in the history books.<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div>
<div>Today, I took the plunge of
hacking up my perfectly good (well
not -perfectly- good, but you get
the idea) firewall cover. Using the
instructions provided by Jack DeRyke
in the POCA newsletter, January 2006
edition, I cut the bubble out of my
firewall cover. <gasp><br>
<br>
Well, I -had- planned on keeping it
in one piece for posterity, but
being a bit cheap these days decided
to go ahead and try for a
two-piece. If I ever want to have a
one piece again... I'll buy one
later.<br>
<br>
It was -not- as easy as Jack made it
out to be. In my case, I had to
remove the entire surround trim that
goes up one side, across the top and
down the other side. There was no
way for me to remove the vinyl at
the top of the bubble without doing
so. -That- is a pain in the ass
job.<br>
<br>
Once I got that off, the rest went
pretty easy. I hope I got it cut in
the right place, because it's a done
deal now. I've not tried it in the
car yet; it's after quitting time
for today. I got the trim back on
the main panel and tried to glue the
vinyl wrapped on the backside.
Tomorrow I'll wrap and glue the
bubble, then try it all out for
size.<br>
<br>
I also drilled the shoulder bolt
holes in the rear hoop of my cage.<br>
I also picked up a 10" air cleaner
from Napa, cheap, and will run it
until I can get the proper
sized/shaped one from K&N. Oh,
and with that, Shelley and I put the
deck lid on too.<br>
<br>
Monday, I start driving it to work
daily to get the engine broken in.<br>
<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<pre>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 8/24/2012 9:04 PM, Asa Jay
Laughton wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Shelley, Sam
and I just got back from a three
day vacation in the woods near the
south end of Lake Coeur d' Alene,
at Heyburn State Park. A small
12'x12' cabin, one room, bunk
beds. Out door flushless toilet
(read that as <u><i>Outhouse</i></u>),
no showers, but luckily a
standpipe with cool clear fresh
water.<br>
<br>
It's all good, we've had our
showers now that we're home. :)<br>
<br>
Back to the Pantera.<br>
It suddenly hit me sometime
yesterday. I can't put my deck
lid on, because the air cleaner is
now too high. It's not a matter
of wanting to put the engine
screen on, no... it's a matter of
the 14" air filter sticks out past
the deck lid line by about an inch
and a half. When I had the stock
manifold on it was no problem, the
air filter fit tight -under- the
decklid. Now with the aluminum
dual-plane FPP-4145 plus a
half-inch spacer, the whole thing
is too tall by about an inch.<br>
<br>
DRAT!<br>
<br>
It's always something isn't it?
heheheh<br>
Three options come readily to
mind. (not to mention the dogbone
air cleaner which I honestly just
don't like the looks of).<br>
Option 1, offset base plate for
the air filter, also the least
expensive, and possibly can be
sourced locally:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10</a><br>
<br>
Option 2, Triangular K&N
filter assembly, 14" diameter but
we all know how the geometry of a
triangle works, right? We'd
simply point this toward the
window, leaving the flat edge
parallel to and a half inch or so
from the leading edge of the deck
lid:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10</a><br>
<br>
Option 3, an oval air cleaner,
mount it sideways, valve cover to
valve cover. I don't know this
option has as much CFM capacity
though:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10</a><br>
<br>
I'll be calling around Spokane
tomorrow to see if I can source
the offset base; cheapest and
easiest. Then, I'll begin work on
turning my one-piece firewall
cover into a two-piece firewall
cover. I have no reason to
believe that won't go well, so
then the next item will be to get
the roll cage rear hoop in place,
drill the holes for the shoulder
bolts (the stock attach point) and
maybe bolt it in place. I say
maybe because if I can get a
friend to help fix the drivers
side hoop connection holes, maybe
I'll take it all in for powder
coating and install the whole
thing. I also need to look at
sourcing some roll bar padding. I
guess I better start looking that
up now. :)<br>
<br>
I think vacation is over.<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<pre>--
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& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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