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Oh no worries there.... but there -are- Amsoil decals on the -car-.
:)<br>
<br>
<img src="cid:part1.01070700.00010102@asajay.com" alt=""><br>
<br>
Wow... doesn't that look -sad- with those tiny tires on the back? I
can't wait to mount the new wheels and tires, but I'm holding off
until the week before I leave. I've got new steering rack ends
(ball joints) that will go on, along with the new tires and then it
goes to the alignment shop. The new tires will have about 1,500
miles on them by the time I reach Vegas.<br>
<br>
I should be wearing a Team Pantera Racing t-shirt or if I can get
some Racing Against Autism t-shirts made by then, I'll wear one of
those.<br>
<br>
Not sure a Yellow Round Table Pizza decal will show up real well.
Make sure you get a set in another color for me please.<br>
<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a>
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On 8/20/2012 9:24 PM, Teampantera wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:ey7wxucvm7gry09ufj6mohhf.1345523061434@email.android.com"
type="cite">
<p>Royal Purple were not one of the 2011 sponsors but the
president of the company like K&N and Ultima who have been
long time sponsors have been pretty generous with give aways in
past...I think (?) JB besides the free oil also got FREE battery
too. JB, was that you? I got a couple K&N filters for my
IR-EFIs which retail for about $50 bucks a piece which was
cool....since you will be going to Vegas first all the sponsors
will be there soaking up media/mag coverage...just in case Royal
Purple shows up dont get caught wearing your AMSOIL DEALER
tshirt ;-)</p>
<p>Asa Jay Laughton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><asajay@asajay.com></a> wrote:</p>
<p>>No it's not free. :)<br>
>I've been using Amsoil in all our rigs now for a few years.
I used to <br>
>be a dealer 25 years ago, but dropped it some time back.
After nuking <br>
>the old engine in the Mach I (the really old engine I
rebuilt 25 years <br>
>ago)[1], and reading everything about the lack of ZDDP in
modern oils, I <br>
>switched back to Amsoil.<br>
><br>
>Yes, I wish it were free, but trying to find a sponsoring
dealer might <br>
>be a bit tricky. Does Steve get -his- for free? I guess
you could say <br>
>I'm sponsoring myself in that regard. :)<br>
><br>
>Asa Jay<br>
>[1] I believe the largest contributing factor to nuking the
Mach I <br>
>engine was using "modern" SL grade engine oils with hardly
any ZDDP.<br>
><br>
>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>& Shelley Marie<br>
>Spokane, WA<br>
>******************************<br>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><br>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</a><br>
><br>
><br>
>On 8/20/2012 8:54 PM, Teampantera wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Is it free? ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> Asa Jay Laughton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><asajay@asajay.com></a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> >All,<br>
>> >In addition to the public replies, I received a few
private ones as<br>
>> >well. I'd like to thank everyone for their input,
I consider it <br>
>> valuable.<br>
>> ><br>
>> >The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't
expect it to have<br>
>> >the same kind of tight tolerances a modern engine
would have. The<br>
>> >majority of clearances on the rebuild came out to
within factory specs,<br>
>> >but not necessarily on the "tight" side. Therefore
running something<br>
>> >that would work well in a modern tight engine may
not be the best. That<br>
>> >removed the 5W-20 from the list.<br>
>> ><br>
>> >The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft,
with full roller<br>
>> >rockers (fulcrums and tips).<br>
>> >The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in
ZDDP. The Amsoil<br>
>> >product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no
worries there.<br>
>> ><br>
>> >My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as
the advice here, is the<br>
>> >15W-50 product, here:<br>
>> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx">http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >Thanks everyone, :)<br>
>> >Asa Jay<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> >& Shelley Marie<br>
>> >Spokane, WA<br>
>> >******************************<br>
>> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><br>
>> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:<br>
>> >> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track
since I know the oil is<br>
>> >> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After
the race I use 10W-40 for<br>
>> >> around town. There is no "right" answer to
this though as there are<br>
>> >> many opinions.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> JB<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <br>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> >> *From:* Teampantera
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com"><teampantera@yahoo.com></a><br>
>> >> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><asajay@asajay.com></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM<br>
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Consensus?<br>
>> >> AMSOIL sponsoring you?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor
oils in Newsletter in last<br>
>> >> few months.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at
Silver State I just stole<br>
>> >> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too much
money in my humble <br>
>> opinion.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline,
royal purple, etc and I<br>
>> >> know you and others are loyal users but my
feedback from some pro<br>
>> >> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get
sponsored FREE motor oil or<br>
>> >> are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any quality
motor oil is fine.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> After my initial break in I did use Mobil One
for awhile but went<br>
>> >> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I
found a case in back of<br>
>> >> the garage I forgot.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I change it after avery orr or track event.
Yea I read there is some<br>
>> >> advantage to using a oil with a high zddp
content but why pay<br>
>> >> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but
is it worth 6-9 bucks a<br>
>> >> quart?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Only if you think so ;-)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Asa Jay Laughton <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><mailto:asajay@asajay.com></a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> >All,<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the
Pantera for the next few <br>
>> weeks as<br>
>> >> >I put as many miles on her as possible.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >After that I'll switch to the permanent
oil. Here are the options I'm<br>
>> >> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:<br>
>> >> > 5W-20<br>
>> >> > 10W-30<br>
>> >> > 15W-50<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >What would the expert consensus be? (I
already know what I'd <br>
>> like, but<br>
>> >> >I'm looking for alternate opinions which
could change my mind)<br>
>> >> >Asa Jay<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> >> >& Shelley Marie<br>
>> >> >Spokane, WA<br>
>> >> >******************************<br>
>> >> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><br>
>> >> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>> >> >http<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >>
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>> >><br>
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>><br>
>> All,<br>
>> In addition to the public replies, I received a few
private ones as <br>
>> well. I'd like to thank everyone for their input, I
consider it valuable.<br>
>><br>
>> The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't
expect it to have <br>
>> the same kind of tight tolerances a modern engine would
have. The <br>
>> majority of clearances on the rebuild came out to
within factory <br>
>> specs, but not necessarily on the "tight" side.
Therefore running <br>
>> something that would work well in a modern tight engine
may not be the <br>
>> best. That removed the 5W-20 from the list.<br>
>><br>
>> The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft, with
full roller <br>
>> rockers (fulcrums and tips).<br>
>> The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP.
The Amsoil <br>
>> product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries
there.<br>
>><br>
>> My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as the
advice here, is <br>
>> the 15W-50 product, here:<br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx">http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx</a><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks everyone, :)<br>
>> Asa Jay<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> & Shelley Marie<br>
>> Spokane, WA<br>
>> ******************************<br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</a><br>
>><br>
>> On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:<br>
>>> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track since
I know the oil is <br>
>>> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the
race I use 10W-40 for <br>
>>> around town. There is no "right" answer to this
though as there are <br>
>>> many opinions.<br>
>>><br>
>>> JB<br>
>>><br>
>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>> *From:* Teampantera <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com"><teampantera@yahoo.com></a><br>
>>> *To:* Asa Jay Laughton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><asajay@asajay.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM<br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions<br>
>>><br>
>>> Consensus?<br>
>>> AMSOIL sponsoring you?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in
Newsletter in <br>
>>> last few months.<br>
>>><br>
>>> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver
State I just stole <br>
>>> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too much
money in my humble <br>
>>> opinion.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal
purple, etc and I <br>
>>> know you and others are loyal users but my feedback
from some pro <br>
>>> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get
sponsored FREE motor oil <br>
>>> or are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any quality
motor oil is fine.<br>
>>><br>
>>> After my initial break in I did use Mobil One for
awhile but went <br>
>>> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I
found a case in back <br>
>>> of the garage I forgot.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I change it after avery orr or track event. Yea I
read there is <br>
>>> some advantage to using a oil with a high zddp
content but why pay <br>
>>> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it
worth 6-9 bucks a <br>
>>> quart?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Only if you think so ;-)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><mailto:asajay@asajay.com></a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> >All,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera
for the next few weeks as<br>
>>> >I put as many miles on her as possible.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >After that I'll switch to the permanent oil.
Here are the options I'm<br>
>>> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:<br>
>>> > 5W-20<br>
>>> > 10W-30<br>
>>> > 15W-50<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >What would the expert consensus be? (I already
know what I'd like, but<br>
>>> >I'm looking for alternate opinions which could
change my mind)<br>
>>> >Asa Jay<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>>> >& Shelley Marie<br>
>>> >Spokane, WA<br>
>>> >******************************<br>
>>> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><br>
>>> ><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
>>> >http<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
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>>> >TPR mailing list<br>
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No it's not free. :)<br>
I've been using Amsoil in all our rigs now for a few years. I
used to be a dealer 25 years ago, but dropped it some time back.
After nuking the old engine in the Mach I (the really old engine I
rebuilt 25 years ago)[1], and reading everything about the lack of
ZDDP in modern oils, I switched back to Amsoil.<br>
<br>
Yes, I wish it were free, but trying to find a sponsoring dealer
might be a bit tricky. Does Steve get -his- for free? I guess
you could say I'm sponsoring myself in that regard. :)<br>
<br>
Asa Jay<br>
[1] I believe the largest contributing factor to nuking the Mach I
engine was using "modern" SL grade engine oils with hardly any
ZDDP.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a>
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On 8/20/2012 8:54 PM, Teampantera wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:354gb8bie9c0wxp8dn4fa3yw.1345521291887@email.android.com"
type="cite">
<p>Is it free? ;-)</p>
<p>Asa Jay Laughton <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><asajay@asajay.com></a>
wrote:</p>
<p>>All,<br>
>In addition to the public replies, I received a few
private ones as <br>
>well. I'd like to thank everyone for their input, I
consider it valuable.<br>
><br>
>The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't expect
it to have <br>
>the same kind of tight tolerances a modern engine would
have. The <br>
>majority of clearances on the rebuild came out to within
factory specs, <br>
>but not necessarily on the "tight" side. Therefore
running something <br>
>that would work well in a modern tight engine may not be
the best. That <br>
>removed the 5W-20 from the list.<br>
><br>
>The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft, with full
roller <br>
>rockers (fulcrums and tips).<br>
>The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The
Amsoil <br>
>product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries
there.<br>
><br>
>My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as the
advice here, is the <br>
>15W-50 product, here:<br>
><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx">http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx</a><br>
><br>
>Thanks everyone, :)<br>
>Asa Jay<br>
><br>
><br>
>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>& Shelley Marie<br>
>Spokane, WA<br>
>******************************<br>
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>On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:<br>
>> I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track since I
know the oil is <br>
>> gonna be hot. I also add some ZDDP. After the race
I use 10W-40 for <br>
>> around town. There is no "right" answer to this
though as there are <br>
>> many opinions.<br>
>><br>
>> JB<br>
>><br>
>>
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>> *From:* Teampantera <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM<br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions<br>
>><br>
>> Consensus?<br>
>> AMSOIL sponsoring you?<br>
>><br>
>> Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in
Newsletter in last <br>
>> few months.<br>
>><br>
>> When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver
State I just stole <br>
>> his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too much money
in my humble opinion.<br>
>><br>
>> I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal
purple, etc and I <br>
>> know you and others are loyal users but my feedback
from some pro <br>
>> drivers (JB & the Pope).was unless you get
sponsored FREE motor oil or <br>
>> are turning 7,000 R's for an hour any quality motor
oil is fine.<br>
>><br>
>> After my initial break in I did use Mobil One for
awhile but went <br>
>> right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I found
a case in back of <br>
>> the garage I forgot.<br>
>><br>
>> I change it after avery orr or track event. Yea I
read there is some <br>
>> advantage to using a oil with a high zddp content but
why pay <br>
>> the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that stiuff but is it
worth 6-9 bucks a <br>
>> quart?<br>
>><br>
>> Only if you think so ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> Asa Jay Laughton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> >All,<br>
>> ><br>
>> >I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera for
the next few weeks as<br>
>> >I put as many miles on her as possible.<br>
>> ><br>
>> >After that I'll switch to the permanent oil.
Here are the options I'm<br>
>> >looking at, from Asmoil in weights:<br>
>> > 5W-20<br>
>> > 10W-30<br>
>> > 15W-50<br>
>> ><br>
>> >What would the expert consensus be? (I already
know what I'd like, but<br>
>> >I'm looking for alternate opinions which could
change my mind)<br>
>> >Asa Jay<br>
>> ><br>
>> >Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>> >& Shelley Marie<br>
>> >Spokane, WA<br>
>> >******************************<br>
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All,<br>
In addition to the public replies, I received a few private ones
as well. I'd like to thank everyone for their input, I consider
it valuable.<br>
<br>
The engine is an older model Ford 351C. I wouldn't expect it to
have the same kind of tight tolerances a modern engine would
have. The majority of clearances on the rebuild came out to
within factory specs, but not necessarily on the "tight" side.
Therefore running something that would work well in a modern
tight engine may not be the best. That removed the 5W-20 from
the list.<br>
<br>
The engine is using a hydraulic roller camshaft, with full
roller rockers (fulcrums and tips).<br>
The break-in oil I have is -supposedly- high in ZDDP. The
Amsoil product I'm looking at is also high in ZDDP, no worries
there.<br>
<br>
My choice based on non-forum feedback as well as the advice
here, is the 15W-50 product, here:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx">http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx</a><br>
<br>
Thanks everyone, :)<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
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On 8/20/2012 8:11 PM, John Bentley wrote:
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cite="mid:1345518683.64055.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); font-family: times new roman,new
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div><span>I use Valvoline Race 20W-50 for ORR or track
since I know the oil is gonna be hot. I also add some
ZDDP. After the race I use 10W-40 for around town.
There is no "right" answer to this though as there are
many opinions.<br>
</span></div>
<div><br>
<span></span></div>
<div><span>JB</span></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
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york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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<hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
Teampantera <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com"><teampantera@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
Asa Jay Laughton <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"><asajay@asajay.com></a>;
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [TPR] Oil weight opinions<br>
</font> </div>
<br>
Consensus? <br>
AMSOIL sponsoring you?<br>
<br>
Fyi - Jack posted something comparing motor oils in
Newsletter in last few months.<br>
<br>
When JB got a FREE case of Royal Purple at Silver State
I just stole his oil otherwise that liquid gold is too
much money in my humble opinion.<br>
<br>
I've read all the claims by amsoil, redline, royal
purple, etc and I know you and others are loyal users
but my feedback from some pro drivers (JB & the
Pope).was unless you get sponsored FREE motor oil or are
turning 7,000 R's for an hour any quality motor oil is
fine. <br>
<br>
After my initial break in I did use Mobil One for awhile
but went right back to Valvoline VR1 race oil because I
found a case in back of the garage I forgot.<br>
<br>
I change it after avery orr or track event. Yea I read
there is some advantage to using a oil with a high zddp
content but why pay the.extra$2-3 bucks a qt for that
stiuff but is it worth 6-9 bucks a quart?<br>
<br>
Only if you think so ;-)<br>
<br>
Asa Jay Laughton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
ymailto="mailto:asajay@asajay.com"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
>All,<br>
><br>
>I'll be running a break-in oil in the Pantera for
the next few weeks as <br>
>I put as many miles on her as possible.<br>
><br>
>After that I'll switch to the permanent oil. Here
are the options I'm <br>
>looking at, from Asmoil in weights:<br>
> 5W-20<br>
> 10W-30<br>
> 15W-50<br>
><br>
>What would the expert consensus be? (I already know
what I'd like, but <br>
>I'm looking for alternate opinions which could
change my mind)<br>
>Asa Jay<br>
><br>
>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>& Shelley Marie<br>
>Spokane, WA<br>
>******************************<br>
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