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<P><B>From: </B>"David in Durango" <adin@frontier.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Teampantera" <teampantera@yahoo.com>, "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay@asajay.com>, tpr@teampanteraracing.com<BR><B>Sent: </B>Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:35:57 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [TPR] Bent a push rod???<BR><BR>Poo, that's bad news! I have a set of 3/8" 8.4 long used pushrods and guide <BR>plates if you can use them.<BR><BR>Neighbors? If they keep me up at night, they get up when I do.<BR><BR>If you had one more fat old man drinking beer, this wouldn't happen . . . .<BR><BR>Keep us posted?<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Teampantera" <teampantera@yahoo.com><BR>To: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay@asajay.com>; <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><BR>Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:24 PM<BR>Subject: [TPR] Bent a push rod???<BR><BR><BR>> Ever have one of those days where you wish you had NOT got out of bed?<BR>><BR>> Larry 'the Falcon' came over Saturday and we worked on the Pantera 3-4 <BR>> hours....okay we just backed it out of the garage, started it and then <BR>> drank beer and leered at neighbor women walking by in inappropriate <BR>> short-shorts, answering tech questions about how fast the Pantera really <BR>> was....you know where I answer,<BR>><BR>> "With me driving or Mario Andretti driving?"<BR>><BR>> Anyway on to Sunday....I wake up @ 4AM and can't fall back asleep and <BR>> immediately realize in horror that I am sleeping with my mom so I got up <BR>> quickly, got dressed and went out to the garage. I waited until I was <BR>> certain the neighbors were awake (5:30AM) and started ItBWild and headed <BR>> the 5 miles to PCH (Hwy 1) headed south towards San Diego when I heard <BR>> then saw in my rear view mirror a beat up 66 Chevy Nova....he passed me <BR>> near Laguna Beach and I stayed behind him onto the Laguna Canyon road <BR>> which twists back up to I-405. When I had a spot to pass him I downshifted <BR>> and hit the throttle blowing by him (yea he let me) but as I went around <BR>> him and lifted on throttle I heard some noise like a lifter..<BR>> GAAAAAAAW<BR>><BR>> I threw it in neutral and pulled over and shut down..the guy inthe Nova <BR>> behind me....we looked for any fluid loss and after about 5 minutes I <BR>> restarted and hearing the knocking immediiately shut down again ( yea I <BR>> had good oil pressure). Called AAA and got a flatbed coming to pick me up<BR>><BR>> In meantime the Nova hot rod owner and I share some history...he is <BR>> running a built 396 and said he had it on rolllers and that it made 400 hp <BR>> at rear wheels...in meantime tow flatbed shows up and brings Pantera back <BR>> home.....now its 8am and neighbors are gawking and sneering that look of<BR>> "THATS WOT YOU DEAERVE FOR WAKING US UP!"<BR>><BR>> Will pull valve covers and get Dick Drenske over this afternoon for <BR>> 'damage assessment'<BR>><BR>> Yea may have over revved but was supposed to have had rev limitor set at <BR>> 6300 too so not sure yet what happened.<BR>><BR>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> wrote:<BR>><BR>>>At the risk of inviting more advice that will prolong this agony...<BR>>><BR>>>Here are the photos of the Plastigage results:<BR>>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5416<BR>>><BR>>>I'm off to Napa to buy some gaskets.<BR>>>Asa Jay<BR>>><BR>>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<BR>>>& Shelley Marie<BR>>>Spokane, WA<BR>>>******************************<BR>>>http://www.racingagainstautism.com<BR>>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>On 7/21/2012 10:32 AM, David in Durango wrote:<BR>>>> OR (probably not recommended?)<BR>>>> One could think that .003 is very close to .0028 and call that close <BR>>>> enough<BR>>>> with a HV oil pump (or not).<BR>>>><BR>>>> Seems a hill billy approach? if the crank is already .010 under I'd <BR>>>> think<BR>>>> about not turning it to .020 - but that's my personal hangup.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Time for a Baconater and a Modelo Especial . . . . We don't want any <BR>>>> egg<BR>>>> shaped main jounals!<BR>>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay@asajay.com><BR>>>> To:<tpr@teampanteraracing.com><BR>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:05 AM<BR>>>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Asa's Engine rebuild update<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> Anyone?<BR>>>>> JB, any opinion on the use of shim stock to tighten up the tolerance on<BR>>>>> the main bearings?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Asa Jay<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<BR>>>>> & Shelley Marie<BR>>>>> Spokane, WA<BR>>>>> ******************************<BR>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com<BR>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On 7/20/2012 8:29 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:<BR>>>>>> Not much done tonight.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> - Reviewed the Plastigage. 0.003 clearance on all mains. Spec calls<BR>>>>>> for 0.001-0.0015 Desired, with 0.0028 being max allowable. Sounds <BR>>>>>> like<BR>>>>>> I should probably shim and can get it from Napa.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Alrighty then, it's been over 25 years since I shimmed a crank. I've<BR>>>>>> lost the knowledge, but know it can be done. I'm looking for expert<BR>>>>>> pointers on this... Russ???<BR>>>>>> - Shim both bearing halves or just one?<BR>>>>>> - How?<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Took inventory of gaskets. Need intake, front cover, oil pan, front<BR>>>>>> main seal, one head gasket (will probably buy two just for good<BR>>>>>> measure). Rest of rod bearings did -not- show up today (darnit).<BR>>>>>> Break-in oil did though. I also have three bottles of assembly lube,<BR>>>>>> will use it liberally on all parts, mains, rods, cylinders, cam,<BR>>>>>> lifters, etc.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Gotta get'er done.<BR>>>>>> Asa Jay<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<BR>>>>>> & Shelley Marie<BR>>>>>> Spokane, WA<BR>>>>>> ******************************<BR>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com<BR>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> On 7/20/2012 6:41 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:<BR>>>>>>> Oh, you're way ahead of me... :) I'll have to move fast to catch <BR>>>>>>> up.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Asa Jay<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<BR>>>>>>> & Shelley Marie<BR>>>>>>> Spokane, WA<BR>>>>>>> ******************************<BR>>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com<BR>>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> On 7/19/2012 9:44 PM, David wrote:<BR>>>>>>>> Well, dang. Asa Jay may(?) catch and pass me.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> Since the lift debacle: flywheel installed, clutch installed, ZF <BR>>>>>>>> mated<BR>>>>>>>> to Cleveland (never thought I'd see that again, balance point<BR>>>>>>>> determined ( pulled the ZF separately - not recommended).<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> Still plenty to do before the stab.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay@asajay.com><BR>>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> - Cleaned the crank with a 0.22 caliber boresnake. No residue. <BR>>>>>>>>> Blew<BR>>>>>>>>> out with compressed air.<BR>>>>>>>>> - Honed the cylinders, put a pretty good cross-hatch in there <BR>>>>>>>>> (amazing<BR>>>>>>>>> how smooth and shiny the cylinders actually were before honing.)<BR>>>>>>>>> - Cleaned, scrubbed the block with clean rags, brushes where <BR>>>>>>>>> possible<BR>>>>>>>>> and blew out with compressed air.<BR>>>>>>>>> - Placed main bearings -dry-, with crank and Plastigage. Torqued <BR>>>>>>>>> to<BR>>>>>>>>> spec using ARP assembly lube. Will let sit overnight and check<BR>>>>>>>>> readings<BR>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> - Waiting on balance of rod bearings.<BR>>>>>>>>> - Will probably assembly new rings to pistons tomorrow but may need <BR>>>>>>>>> to<BR>>>>>>>>> hold off piston insertion until rod bearings arrive.<BR>>>>>>>>> - May be able to install cam/lifters and spring/spider assembly <BR>>>>>>>>> (holds<BR>>>>>>>>> the roller lifters in place) this weekend.<BR>>>>>>>>> - May be able to assemble timing gear set (Pete Jackson quiet gear<BR>>>>>>>>> drive) and front cover too. We'll see how it goes.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> - I should really pull the radiator this weekend too, in order to <BR>>>>>>>>> see<BR>>>>>>>>> how bad it is or isn't.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Everybody check your harnesses. The set Mad Dawg gave me a few <BR>>>>>>>>> years<BR>>>>>>>>> ago have now expired (was expected) so I need at least one new.<BR>>>>>>>>> Helmet<BR>>>>>>>>> is still good, SA 2010.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Still need tires, waiting for budget to replenish. A little closer<BR>>>>>>>>> though... sold an old set of ARE wheels I used to run on the Mach <BR>>>>>>>>> I...<BR>>>>>>>>> since the Campy's look so much nicer on it now. :) ... and can<BR>>>>>>>>> runner<BR>>>>>>>>> a wider tire on the rear! Hoo rah!<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Photo uploads much later... trying to concentrate on the actual <BR>>>>>>>>> work<BR>>>>>>>>> but<BR>>>>>>>>> still taking photos.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Asa Jay<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> -- <BR>>>>>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<BR>>>>>>>>> & Shelley Marie<BR>>>>>>>>> Spokane, WA<BR>>>>>>>>> ******************************<BR>>>>>>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com<BR>>>>>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>>>>>>> TPR mailing list<BR>>>>>>>>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>>>>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>>>>>> TPR mailing list<BR>>>>>>>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>>>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> -----<BR>>>>>>>> No virus found in this message.<BR>>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<BR>>>>>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2437/5142 - Release Date: <BR>>>>>>>> 07/19/12<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>>>>> TPR mailing list<BR>>>>>>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> -----<BR>>>>>>> No virus found in this message.<BR>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<BR>>>>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2437/5144 - Release Date: <BR>>>>>>> 07/20/12<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>>>> TPR mailing list<BR>>>>>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> -----<BR>>>>>> No virus found in this message.<BR>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<BR>>>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2437/5144 - Release Date: <BR>>>>>> 07/20/12<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>>> TPR mailing list<BR>>>>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus<BR>>>>> signature database 7317 (20120721) __________<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> http://www.eset.com<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus <BR>>>> signature database 7317 (20120721) __________<BR>>>><BR>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<BR>>>><BR>>>> http://www.eset.com<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> TPR mailing list<BR>>>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> -----<BR>>>> No virus found in this message.<BR>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<BR>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2437/5145 - Release Date: 07/21/12<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>_______________________________________________<BR>>>TPR mailing list<BR>>>TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>>>http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> TPR mailing list<BR>> TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>> http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR>><BR>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus <BR>> signature database 7320 (20120722) __________<BR>><BR>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<BR>><BR>> http://www.eset.com<BR>><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR><BR>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7320 (20120722) __________<BR><BR>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<BR><BR>http://www.eset.com<BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>TPR mailing list<BR>TPR@teampanteraracing.com<BR>http://lists.teampanteraracing.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tpr<BR></P></div></body></html>