<p>Yea it will get ugly at the Big 4 meeting in Ely.</p>
<p>John Bentley <gndplne@yahoo.com> wrote:</p>
<p>>"I'm still polishing and cleaning."<br>
> <br>
>Yeah, we are gonna quote you on that one. :)<br>
><br>
>JB<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>________________________________<br>
> From: David in Durango <adin@frontier.net><br>
>To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com>; tpr@teampanteraracing.com; Ken & Lela MacArthur <klckmac@msn.com>; Keith Bellows <keithbellows@gmail.com>; jamie.wilson@itron.com; Jerry Butler <klokwerk@comcast.net> <br>
>Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:56 PM<br>
>Subject: Re: [TPR] Asa's Engine Swap from Mach I, to Pantera<br>
> <br>
><br>
> <br>
>Asa Jay,<br>
>If you remember I pulled my Cleveland for a ring, hone and check. <br>
>Ended up w/ brgs, oil pump, cam, lifters, springs, flywheel resurface, release <br>
>brg (got it today, I think), plumbing and wiring. This was started to be <br>
>completed for the fun rally. I'm still polishing and cleaning.<br>
> <br>
>Of course, now I know everything is good - all clearences were <br>
>checked etc.<br>
> <br>
>Do it right or you could be sitting on the side of the road watching the <br>
>end of the event. (my opinion)<br>
> <br>
>Obviously you need bearings and to spend some time checking <br>
>everything.<br>
> <br>
>Work carefully.<br>
> <br>
>David<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>----- Original Message ----- <br>
>>From: Asa Jay Laughton <br>
>>To: tpr@teampanteraracing.com ; Ken & Lela MacArthur ; Keith Bellows ; jamie.wilson@itron.com ; Jerry Butler <br>
>>Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:22 PM<br>
>>Subject: [TPR] Asa's Engine Swap from Mach I, to Pantera<br>
>><br>
>>Well.... it's no longer a simple intake manifold and oil pan change.<br>
>>The original objective was to replace the stock cast iron intake <br>
> with a Blue Thunder FPP 4145, and replace the stock baffled pan with an <br>
> Armando gated and baffled pan.<br>
>><br>
>>You may remember we started with <br>
> this:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5216<br>
>><br>
>>And <br>
> I now have this:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5268<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5272<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5275<br>
>><br>
>>Why?<br>
>>Well, <br>
> it all started with this spark plug from #5:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5210<br>
>><br>
>>What's <br>
> going on? Well, only one way to really find out, so we found this:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5278<br>
>><br>
>>While <br>
> we're in there, we might as well look at other things, and.... we found <br>
> this....:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5290<br>
>><br>
>><insert <br>
> any four letter words you feel appropriate to communicate my frustration <br>
> level><br>
>><br>
>>Sooooooooo..... <br>
>>I'm in it now to get the crank polished, <br>
> new bearings, new gaskets and seals, have the block tanked, brushed and <br>
> blown... and I don't know what else at this point. Oh and don't forget a <br>
> refresh of the heads.<br>
>><br>
>>I did run into another interesting problem.<br>
>>I <br>
> test fit the Armando pan before total dis-assembly. Why? Because I <br>
> have this really cool MPG Windage Tray installed:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5281<br>
>><br>
>>Unfortunately, <br>
> it hangs up on the pan:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5284<br>
>>The <br>
> burnished area is where it's hitting. Here is a shot of the pan:<br>
>>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5287<br>
>>You <br>
> can just make out a little oil on the edge of the scraper. Now <br>
> what? I either don't use the MPG Windage tray, which I -really- <br>
> like. Or I need to hack off some of the scraper in the pan. <br>
> Decisions, decisions.<br>
>><br>
>>Of course, that's honestly the least of my <br>
> worries currently. After a $1,400 order to Summit racing today (for <br>
> other things, like a radiator), I'm out of budget for a couple of <br>
> months. Going this deep into the engine was -not- in the <br>
> plan.<br>
>><br>
>>However, kudos to Steven Donegan who pushed me into it, otherwise <br>
> I wouldn't have known about the bearings. The pistons look fine, the <br>
> cylinders look great (still have some crosshatch) and the rings look <br>
> good. I'll be doing parts cleaning for a while, taking the heads into my <br>
> favorite cylinder head shop and finding a place to clean the block and polish <br>
> the crank.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>PS. Only 74 more <br>
> days to the SSCC.<br>
>>Asa Jay<br>
>><br>
>>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
>& Shelley Marie<br>
>Spokane, WA<br>
>****************************** <br>
>http://www.racingagainstautism.com<br>
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>><br>
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<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>"I'm still polishing and cleaning."
</div><div> <br>Yeah, we are gonna quote you on that one. :)<br><br>JB<br><br></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David in Durango <adin@frontier.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com>; tpr@teampanteraracing.com; Ken & Lela MacArthur <klckmac@msn.com>; Keith Bellows <keithbellows@gmail.com>; jamie.wilson@itron.com; Jerry Butler <klokwerk@comcast.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:56 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TPR] Asa's Engine Swap from Mach I, to Pantera<br> </font> </div> <br>
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<div>Asa Jay,</div>
<div>If you remember I pulled my Cleveland for a ring, hone and check.
Ended up w/ brgs, oil pump, cam, lifters, springs, flywheel resurface, release
brg (got it today, I think), plumbing and wiring. This was started to be
completed for the fun rally. I'm still polishing and cleaning.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Of course, now I know everything is good - all clearences were
checked etc.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Do it right or you could be sitting on the side of the road watching the
end of the event. (my opinion)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Obviously you need bearings and to spend some time checking
everything.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Work carefully.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>David</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="asajay@asajay.com" ymailto="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">Asa Jay
Laughton</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="tpr@teampanteraracing.com" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="klckmac@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:klckmac@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:klckmac@msn.com">Ken & Lela
MacArthur</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="keithbellows@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keithbellows@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:keithbellows@gmail.com">Keith Bellows</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="jamie.wilson@itron.com" ymailto="mailto:jamie.wilson@itron.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jamie.wilson@itron.com">jamie.wilson@itron.com</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="klokwerk@comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:klokwerk@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:klokwerk@comcast.net">Jerry Butler</a>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:22
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> [TPR] Asa's Engine Swap from
Mach I, to Pantera</div>
<div><br></div>Well.... it's no longer a simple intake manifold and oil pan
change.<br>The original objective was to replace the stock cast iron intake
with a Blue Thunder FPP 4145, and replace the stock baffled pan with an
Armando gated and baffled pan.<br><br>You may remember we started with
this:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5216">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5216</a><br><br>And
I now have this:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5268">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5268</a><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5272">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5272</a><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5275">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5275</a><br><br>Why?<br>Well,
it all started with this spark plug from #5:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5210">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5210</a><br><br>What's
going on? Well, only one way to really find out, so we found this:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5278">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5278</a><br><br>While
we're in there, we might as well look at other things, and.... we found
this....:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5290">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5290</a><br><br><insert
any four letter words you feel appropriate to communicate my frustration
level><br><br>Sooooooooo..... <br>I'm in it now to get the crank polished,
new bearings, new gaskets and seals, have the block tanked, brushed and
blown... and I don't know what else at this point. Oh and don't forget a
refresh of the heads.<br><br>I did run into another interesting problem.<br>I
test fit the Armando pan before total dis-assembly. Why? Because I
have this really cool MPG Windage Tray installed:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5281">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5281</a><br><br>Unfortunately,
it hangs up on the pan:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5284">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5284</a><br>The
burnished area is where it's hitting. Here is a shot of the pan:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv285433206moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5287">http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5287</a><br>You
can just make out a little oil on the edge of the scraper. Now
what? I either don't use the MPG Windage tray, which I -really-
like. Or I need to hack off some of the scraper in the pan.
Decisions, decisions.<br><br>Of course, that's honestly the least of my
worries currently. After a $1,400 order to Summit racing today (for
other things, like a radiator), I'm out of budget for a couple of
months. Going this deep into the engine was -not- in the
plan.<br><br>However, kudos to Steven Donegan who pushed me into it, otherwise
I wouldn't have known about the bearings. The pistons look fine, the
cylinders look great (still have some crosshatch) and the rings look
good. I'll be doing parts cleaning for a while, taking the heads into my
favorite cylinder head shop and finding a place to clean the block and polish
the crank.<br><br><img alt="" src="cid:1.4159693729@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"><br><br>PS. Only 74 more
days to the SSCC.<br>Asa Jay<br><pre class="yiv285433206moz-signature">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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