<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>I know Kirby will weigh in here but he also hasn't driven his Pantera in 10 years....okay seems like 10 years now that he has the fancy schmantzy Ford GT replica! ;-)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I Iove my Com cams hyd roller.....will never go back to solid lifters unless its a race car and my Pantera is not a race car. Its a family car which occasionally sees some autobahn speeds... ;-)></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Ref Hyd Comp Cam 32-651-8....Duration 245 and .612 lift.......with a 10 over Cleveland block, 302B heads, IR-EFI, 180's and 11:1 comp on a 381 stroker we made max power of 503RWHP @ 6,000 and 477RWTQ....we kept R's at limit of 6,000 and made max torque at 5200 R</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>On previous 381ci stroker rebuilt 4 years earlier
with the same build EXCEPT using a Holly 830 cfm and Rosch hi rise we made 445 RWHP but made max 391TQ at 4900 R's...REVING to 6300 R's. </span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Honestly, I could not tell the difference in power....and dyno power don't mean squat...Mike Trusty said the same stroker with EFI wouldn't sound as good meaning the EFI smoothed out the cam allot....lost the rumpty rump going to IR-EFI system but I still love it....</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David in Durango <adin@frontier.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Cc:</span></b> TPR List <tpr@teampanteraracing.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:56 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TPR] The Good, the bad and the ugly . . .<br> </font> </div> <br>
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<div><font face="Georgia">Thanks for the "encouragement" Mr. Kirby!</font></div>
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<div><font face="Georgia">This morning I'm thinking a hydraulic roller would be
nice . . . any good ideas for a cam/lifter replacement? I'm open to
suggestions/ideas/theories.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Georgia">thanks!</font></div>
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<div><font face="Georgia">david</font></div>
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<div><br></div>Sounds like a typical Pantera engine tear down...
unfortunately.
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<div class="yiv1167409397gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28, David in Durango <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:adin@frontier.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:adin@frontier.net">adin@frontier.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi kids,</div>
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<div>Thought I would share some fun . . . </div>
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<div>Opened the Cleveland yesterday. My hope was to re-ring and
check everything. 15K mile motor and time to set the valves anyway as
they are making some noise (duh.)</div>
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<div>I was told this is a 440hp motor. It dynoed 325 rwhp @6000rpm
(and not near peak). It has always blown oil.</div>
<div>One plug was pretty oily when removed (#8). #1 piston had all the
ring gaps nicely lined up . . . . #8 cylinder showed NO sign of
a crosshatch pattern.</div>
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<div>Bearings: some wear noted, definately want to replace these. Also
some sign of dirt in oil!</div>
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<div>When I pulled the pan I noticed gasket paper and glyptol chips
stuck to the oil screen, along with some pieces of metallic debris.
Not a good sign?</div>
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<div>Anyway, pulled the crank and set it aside only to find 2 lobes of the
cam shot - now I get to buy a new cam!!!</div>
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<div>so, that is the status of fun and games in Colorado . . . .</div><span class="yiv1167409397HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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