<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Yes, I realize that. But slapping things together blindly without thought can teach one a lesson, too. <br><br>On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Ken Green <<a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Dave,</span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="tab"> But if the problem only happens when the engine revs, you can't do a static check. I heard that a lot of the bell housings were machined by the weights coming out of the pressure plate housing when the engine was first rev'd<var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var>, doesn't sound real good.</span></span></div>
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<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class="hr" readonly="true" contenteditable="false"></div><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> David in Durango <<a href="mailto:adin@frontier.net">adin@frontier.net</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Rich <<a href="mailto:hoppe1@cox.net">hoppe1@cox.net</a>>; Ken Green <<a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>>; panteras <<a href="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com">detomaso@realbig.com</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b> TPR List <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:23 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch<br></font></div><br>Rich,<br><br>That is an interesting idea. I'm not sure what the structural strength <br>needs of
the bellhousing might be.<br><br>Never-the-less: a good reminder to check everything before all is buttoned <br>up and installed.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>David<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Rich" <<a href="mailto:hoppe1@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:hoppe1@cox.net"><a href="mailto:hoppe1@cox.net">hoppe1@cox.net</a></a>><br>To: "Ken Green" <<a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a></a>>; "David in Durango" <br><<a href="mailto:adin@frontier.net" ymailto="mailto:adin@frontier.net"><a href="mailto:adin@frontier.net">adin@frontier.net</a></a>>; "panteras" <<a href="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com"><a href="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com">detomaso@realbig.com</a></a>><br>Cc: "TPR List" <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"><a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a></a>><br>Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:57 PM<br>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch<br><br><br>>I have just remembered something that I thought everyone did
but have not <br>>heard on the list.<br>> The inside of the bellhousing can be ground down near the bolts to make <br>> room for the clutch fork and weights.<br>> I seem to think every bellhousing I have seen has been ground off.<br>> Is it only an arizona thing to do?<br>> Rich<br>><br>> -----Original Message----- <br>> From: Ken Green<br>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:29 PM<br>> To: David in Durango ; panteras<br>> Cc: TPR List<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch<br>><br>> Dave,<br>><br>> I think the common failure of the pressure plate contacting the inside <br>> of the bell housing is with a typical 3 finger clutch. There are roughly <br>> cylindrical shaped weights that can be seen through the three openings in <br>> the pressure plate housing. If you do a trial fit there is clearance, but <br>> when a motor revs, the weights come out and hit the inside of
the bell <br>> housing. If you look at a similar Pantera pressure plate, these weights <br>> are gone.<br>><br>> Ken<br>><br>> From: David in Durango <<a href="mailto:adin@frontier.net" ymailto="mailto:adin@frontier.net"><a href="mailto:adin@frontier.net">adin@frontier.net</a></a>><br>> To: panteras <<a href="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com"><a href="mailto:detomaso@realbig.com">detomaso@realbig.com</a></a>><br>> Cc: TPR List <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"><a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a></a>><br>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:21 AM<br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Clutch<br>><br>> First, thanks to all that offered some comment - it all helps make a <br>> decision. I hope I didn't miss a personal thank you to everyone.<br>><br>> What we learned:<br>><br>> I have a centerforce alum flywheel, single bolt pattern. DQ (Dennis <br>> Quella) is a McLeod dealer and will
check on what help McLeod can offer. <br>> (We know that re-drilling the flywheel may not be the best idea.) I may <br>> just put a new disc in it. DQ also has an adjustable TO brg (mine did <br>> work, but was failed) and will coach me through the setup. DQ was more <br>> than willing to spend time with me on the phone to determine options and <br>> fixes. DQ is doing research w/ McLeod now.<br>><br>> Apparently, the CF (centerforce) clutch has the "magic wts." (my term) <br>> that I want to avoid, if I can afford a new McLeod and they have a PP to <br>> fit. I can't afford to replace the flywheel now. (Powered by SS, you <br>> know) Just to note, a few people "don't like" the extra wts but no one <br>> could site personal experience with a problem. I never notice increased <br>> pedal effort at high RPM.<br>><br>> What caused my question was some memory of someone
having a PP hit the <br>> bell housing - perhaps a Mustang clutch?<br>><br>> At any rate, thanks again to all. I'll keep you posted if I learn <br>> anything more.<br>><br>> cheers,<br>><br>> David<br>> _______________________________________________<br>><br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>><br>> Archive Search Engine Now Available at <a href="http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/"><a href="http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/">http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/</a></a><br>><br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com"><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com">DeTomaso@list.realbig.com</a></a><br>> <a href="http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso"><a href="http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso">http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso</a></a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>><br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>><br>> Archive Search Engine Now Available at <a href="http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/">http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/</a></a><br>><br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com"><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com">DeTomaso@list.realbig.com</a></a><br>> <a href="http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso" target="_blank"><a href="http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso">http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso</a></a><br>><br>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus <br>> signature database 6951 (20120308) __________<br>><br>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.eset.com"><a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a></a><br>><br>><br>> <br><br><br>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6951 (20120308) __________<br><br>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.com/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a></a><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br><br>Archive Search Engine Now Available at <a href="http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/">http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/</a></a><br><br>DeTomaso mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com"><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@list.realbig.com">DeTomaso@list.realbig.com</a></a><br><a href="http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso" target="_blank"><a href="http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso">http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso</a></a><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>