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Aaaaaaargh,<br>
<br>
Keep talkin'... yea... go ahead.... just KEEEEEEP Talkin'<br>
<br>
<br>
New valves<br>
New retainers<br>
New keepers<br>
- figure on the guides needed replaced or sleeved<br>
- new three-angle valve job<br>
- assuming no seats need to be replaced (would be nice to put
hardened seats in)<br>
- should machine the guides for positive-type seals<br>
- MUST maintain proper valve stem installed height due to bolt-down
rockers<br>
- can't have the head faced, or it throws off the rocker install<br>
<br>
The slippery slope....<br>
- while I'm in there, I should go ahead and replace the cam/lifters<br>
- but then I'd probably need to consider an adjustable valve train<br>
- I'd like to move to head studs (yea, a bit more difficult to
remove the heads from the engine bay)<br>
- If I'm in that far, it would be nice to swap all the bearings<br>
- but if I'm in that far I should check the cylinders and replace
the rings on the pistons<br>
- but if I find out I have too much slop in the cylinders I should
get it bored .010 over or so<br>
- which leads to new pistons<br>
- hmmm, I've been thinkin' about a stroker for the next build....<br>
- Sam "Okay 'grandpa' now that it's 2020, when you are going to fix
the Pantera so I can drive it?"<br>
<br>
Back to reality. Advantages:<br>
- replaces all those two-piece valves<br>
- gives me the chance to swap the intake to one of the FPP
dual-plane models I have<br>
<br>
Disadvantages:<br>
- cost<br>
- doesn't replace that one noisy lifter that comes and goes<br>
<br>
Swap the engine from the Mach I:<br>
- new fluids.<br>
- new pilot bearing.<br>
- not as slippery of a slope.<br>
<br>
I'll probably stay torn on this for a while.<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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<br>
On 12/4/2011 8:13 AM, bob Radefeld wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CA+4z8QBxRtLh7kTYdKXKZxMnpPy7BUkPdnMriyux+vuDn60oyw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div><font size="4">Dear Chuck,</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="4">Weren't you one of the folks with advice
regarding the "slippery slope" syndrome that so easily occurs
when one pulls his engine? That certainly applied to me when
my engine came out of my car & I've got a hunch it could
very easily infect Asa if he swaps engines. If he can somehow
"immunize" himself against this happening then YES, I would
agree that swapping engines might allow for a smaller outlay
of $$ for him. Personally, however, I would pull only the
heads & be more assured that my chances of sliding were
minimized to the max.........FWIW.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="4">Bob</font> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Charles
Engles <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cengles@cox.net">cengles@cox.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;">Dear Mr. Not Completely Stock Engine
Owner,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> My biggest
concern was with the lousy plastic timing gear and
you’ve taken care of that. I had forgotten about
the two piece valves. I think the best and most
unpleasant comments on that are from JB and
Rowdy. To paraphrase one of my favorite quotes
for this situation: “As long as nothing happens to
the engine, there’s no danger.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> Perhaps for
the least financial cost, the Mustang engine
transplant might the best deal. You said that the
biggest dollar cost would be adjusting or
rebuilding the carb for it’s new situation in the
Pantera. You could put the Pantera engine on a
stand and then……..put the Mustang on the
proverbial back burner of “when I get ‘round tuit”
and/or begin another engine build from those three
re-builders you have for a Mustang powerplant.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;">
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-size: 11pt;">Fr</span><b><span
style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt;">om:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color:
windowtext; font-size: 10pt;"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Asa Jay Laughton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] What we are about .
. . .</div>
</div>
</span>
</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well the fact is there is nothing
-wrong- with the stock engine -in- the Pantera right
now. Except for doomsayer's like John (no offense
intended) who keep a tinge of doubt in my mind, I
have no qualms about running this engine at 100 MPH
for 90 miles. It needs nothing right now other than
an oil and filter change, well and maybe a new
radiator (or rebuilt, I'm working on that).<br>
<br>
Granted, running it between WOT and full Brakes on
the local track for 20 minutes at a shot, or
brutalizing it on an autocross course isn't the
same. Might it not survive 100 MPH for 90 miles?
Maybe.<br>
<br>
Two years ago I replaced all the valve stem keepers
and valve stem seals. I've tuned it for no-knock on
92 Octane pump gas (of course it's a '73 de-tuned
engine anyway.) It has a full-roller timing set
(after the stock set went south). Okay, so it's not
strictly stock, like Brock Tella stock, okay?<br>
<br>
No worries though, I'm not about to spend a
brazilian dollars on new parts for a new rebuild.
That comes secondary. What the angst is about is
whether to buy in to the idea the stock engine might
grenade on course and instead run the engine I've
built for the Mach I. Details on that engine build
are here:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.asajay.com/351rebuild/351rebuild.htm"
target="_blank">http://www.asajay.com/351rebuild/351rebuild.htm</a><br>
<br>
It's been running in the Mach I since 2001, just not
been driven a whole lot.<br>
<br>
<sigh> I just need new shocks/springs, a new
radiator, wheels and tires, an oil and filter change
and I'll be ready. But I'll also listen to other
advice. What other reasons are there that my engine
as it is might not make it 90 miles at 100 MPH?<br>
<br>
Asa Jay<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<pre>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired</pre>
<pre>& Shelley Marie</pre>
<pre>Spokane, WA</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
On 12/3/2011 5:35 PM, Charles Engles wrote: </p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear Asa,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> Ahem.
That should read: </span><b> </b><b><span
style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">John’s</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);"> email is filled with words of
wisdom. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">
My bad, Chuck Engles</span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>]</span><b>
</b><b><span style="font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">On
Behalf Of</span></b> <span style="font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">Charles
Engles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'John Bentley'; 'Asa Jay Laughton'; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] What we are about . . .
.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear Asa,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">
John email is filled with words of wisdom. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles</span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">mailto:tpr-bounces@teampanteraracing.com</a>]</span><b>
</b><b><span style="font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">On
Behalf Of</span></b> <span style="font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">John
Bentley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asa Jay Laughton; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] What we are about . . .
.</span></p>
<p>Asa,</p>
<p>You gotta stop this! Don't run Silver State with
an original un-touched engine since you will
probably suck a valve at mile 25! Don't worry about
the long list of $20k worth of parts you WANT and
just get it running and run the 100 MPH class. Take
smaller steps or you will NEVER drive it again. :)
My garage is filled with parts I have collected
along the way and if I waited until they were all
installed it would never leave the jack stands.</p>
<p>Don't make me send the Brazilian girls up there to
fix your engine......!</p>
<p>JB</p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Asa Jay Laughton <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank"><asajay@asajay.com></a><br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:51 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] What we are about . . .
.</span></p>
<p>You're excellency,<br>
<br>
There is always room at the Northwest Pantera
Research Institute for The Pope. The last
transients to stay here were Mike Drew and John
Christian on their way to the Rocky Mountain Tour.
I have a refrigerator specifically designated for
beer. Although it's not normally stocked, it
miraculously fills anytime a man of the shop cloth
comes to stay. And one of the natives has a "Hut"
always well stocked with pizza.<br>
<br>
I do have an emotional attachment to the engine in
the Pantera. It's an original numbers matching,
never been rebuilt, still runs. Yes.... the more I
drive it -hard-, the more I take a chance on
breaking something, which I sometimes have angst
about.... until I climb in, fire it up and drive
away. So on the one hand, I really should swap it,
but on the other... how cool would it be to complete
the SSCC in a triple digit speed class, with the
original numbers matching engine, never been
rebuilt, 40 years after it was made? ... WOW!<br>
<br>
The Mach I could sit without an engine. I haven't
actually driven it in -over- a year. It's really in
a sad state of bodywork and paint. But I just know
if it sits for -long- without an engine.... it will
depress me even further as to it's non-driven
state. That engine is -not- numbers matching and I
could pretty much put it anywhere I want without any
angst.<br>
<br>
The engine currently on the stand in the lab is
still waiting further forensics, which I'm hoping to
get to this winter. It isn't a good candidate for a
rebuild; it was bored .030" over last time and has
nearly 80K miles on it or so. I have three others
stored that I could use for new rebuilt platforms,
but I don't know what condition they are in....
again, the Northwest PRI has no money for research
at the moment.<br>
<br>
If the angels granted this kind of project could be
undertaken, it would most likely happen in January
and would look something like this:<br>
<br>
- Move Shelley's Jeep out of garage, move Mach I in<br>
- Remove engine sans transmission (time estimate,
half a day)<br>
- Drain radiator of coolant, unhook radiator
hoses, remove radiator<br>
- Drain engine of oil, unhook oil lines to
accumulator<br>
- Remove fan belts and fan<br>
- Remove power steering pump and set aside (or
unhook hoses if necessary)<br>
- Remove alternator<br>
- Unhook all wiring to the engine and place
aside<br>
- Remove carb, tape over intake<br>
- Remove distributor<br>
- Unbolt headers at head<br>
- Unhook fuel line and cork it (if there's any
left)Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
- Unbolt transmission, motor mounts and pull the
sucker<br>
- Put the engine on a stand<br>
- Move Mach I back outside, move Shelley's Jeep back
in.<br>
- Remove the engine from the Pantera (time estimate,
half a day)<br>
- Remove the decklid<br>
- Drain coolant, unhook hoses, remove radiator
(needs new or rebuilt radiator)<br>
- Drain engine oil<br>
- Drain ZF gear oil<br>
- Unhook fuel line and cork<br>
- Remove carb and distributor, cover holes<br>
- Unhook all wiring, set aside<br>
- Remove A/C compressor (unused currently), set
aside<br>
- Unhook/remove starter (get it out of the way)<br>
- Remove A/C Condensor<br>
- Unhook headers<br>
- Unhook transmission linkage<br>
- Unhook transmission wiring<br>
- Unhook half-shafts<br>
- Remove clutch slave, set aside<br>
- Unbolt engine and trans mounts and pull the
sucker<br>
- Swap the ZF to the other engine (an hour maybe)<br>
- Swap flywheels (the Mach I is an automatic)<br>
- Install new pilot bearing since the Mach I
doesn't have one (money)<br>
- Install pressure plate and clutch disc
(assuming they are fine, otherwise.... more money)<br>
- Reverse the process on the Pantera (another half
day)<br>
<br>
But then.....<br>
- I don't have a well-tuned carb for the Mach I
engine. The Carter AFB on there works, but not as
optimally as it should. The Holley from the Pantera
would work, but it's not tuned to the higher
horsepower of the Mach I engine. Do I rebuild and
re-tune the Carter or do I re-jet the Holley?<br>
- I could use the Duraspark distributor from the
Mach I in the Pantera but I'd need to wire up a
computer box in the engine compartment to make it
work. Best to do that while the engine is out.
(more money)<br>
- If the engine is out it's a good time to replace
the rubber mounting doughnuts. (more money)<br>
- If the engine is out, it's a good time to re-plumb
the cooling system, ala John Taphorn/Dave Bell's
method. (more money and some creative work in the
engine bay)<br>
- Might as well remove the A/C parts for now since
they aren't being used.<br>
<br>
So I look at all this and it just doesn't seem
practical. But I get that darn thundering clapping
sound from a good strong V8 engine in my bones and
"practicality" begins to get awfully transparent.<br>
<br>
Bless me father for I have sinned... I have lust for
more horsepower and coveted my neighbors ponies.<br>
<br>
Asa Jay </p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size:
10pt;">& Shelley Marie</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size:
10pt;">Spokane, WA</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size:
10pt;">****************************** </span></p>
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<p><br>
On 12/3/2011 1:48 PM, David in Durango wrote: </p>
<p>So, you have a "spare" for the Pantera? Hot motor?
(well, usable).</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Swap them out! If you have some emotional
attachment to the Pantera motor, use it for the
dream rebuild "next winter" [1] and have some fun
in the mean time. I've heard the Pope would donate
labor for 3-4 days if he had a place to stay and
beer/pizza rations. That way, if you dropped
something big, you would have back up! Hell, he
might even deliver your new wheels, too.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Or you could sit on the porch while the big dawgs
play . . . . . </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Morally unemployed,</p>
<p>David in Durango</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>[1] next winter = appropriate economic time</p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">----- Original Message ----- </span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank"><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">Asa Jay Laughton</span></a><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">To:</span></b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com"
target="_blank"><span style="font-family:
'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</span></a><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Saturday, December 03, 2011
2:10 PM</span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Re: [TPR] What we are about . .
. .</span></p>
<p>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgh.........<br>
<br>
The more I -SIT- here and dwell on it.....<br>
The more I want to put the 351C from the Mach I into
the Pantera.....<br>
nnnnnnngh......<br>
I know I could have it done in a couple weekends....<br>
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh........<br>
It's winter........<br>
I'm not driving the car......<br>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmph................<br>
Must.... resist.... temptation.<br>
<br>
If I take that engine out of the Mustang... it'll be
the death nell for the car and I can't have that.<br>
<br>
must.... resist....<br>
<br>
Asa Jay</p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size:
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