<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Asa,</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>You gotta stop this! Don't run Silver State with an original un-touched engine since you will probably suck a valve at mile 25! Don't worry about the long list of $20k worth of parts you WANT and just get it running and run the 100 MPH class. Take smaller steps or you will NEVER drive it again. :) My garage is filled with parts I have collected along the way and if I waited until they were all installed it would never leave the jack stands.<br></span></div><div><br></div><div>Don't make me send the Brazilian girls up there to fix your engine......!<br></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>JB</span></div><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tpr@teampanteraracing.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:51 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TPR] What we are about . . . .<br> </font> <br>
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You're excellency,<br>
<br>
There is always room at the Northwest Pantera Research Institute for
The Pope. The last transients to stay here were Mike Drew and John
Christian on their way to the Rocky Mountain Tour. I have a
refrigerator specifically designated for beer. Although it's not
normally stocked, it miraculously fills anytime a man of the shop
cloth comes to stay. And one of the natives has a "Hut" always well
stocked with pizza.<br>
<br>
I do have an emotional attachment to the engine in the Pantera.
It's an original numbers matching, never been rebuilt, still runs.
Yes.... the more I drive it -hard-, the more I take a chance on
breaking something, which I sometimes have angst about.... until I
climb in, fire it up and drive away. So on the one hand, I really
should swap it, but on the other... how cool would it be to complete
the SSCC in a triple digit speed class, with the original numbers
matching engine, never been rebuilt, 40 years after it was made?
... WOW!<br>
<br>
The Mach I could sit without an engine. I haven't actually driven
it in -over- a year. It's really in a sad state of bodywork and
paint. But I just know if it sits for -long- without an engine....
it will depress me even further as to it's non-driven state. That
engine is -not- numbers matching and I could pretty much put it
anywhere I want without any angst.<br>
<br>
The engine currently on the stand in the lab is still waiting
further forensics, which I'm hoping to get to this winter. It isn't
a good candidate for a rebuild; it was bored .030" over last time
and has nearly 80K miles on it or so. I have three others stored
that I could use for new rebuilt platforms, but I don't know what
condition they are in.... again, the Northwest PRI has no money for
research at the moment.<br>
<br>
If the angels granted this kind of project could be undertaken, it
would most likely happen in January and would look something like
this:<br>
<br>
- Move Shelley's Jeep out of garage, move Mach I in<br>
- Remove engine sans transmission (time estimate, half a day)<br>
- Drain radiator of coolant, unhook radiator hoses, remove
radiator<br>
- Drain engine of oil, unhook oil lines to accumulator<br>
- Remove fan belts and fan<br>
- Remove power steering pump and set aside (or unhook hoses if
necessary)<br>
- Remove alternator<br>
- Unhook all wiring to the engine and place aside<br>
- Remove carb, tape over intake<br>
- Remove distributor<br>
- Unbolt headers at head<br>
- Unhook fuel line and cork it (if there's any left)Asa Jay
Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>
- Unbolt transmission, motor mounts and pull the sucker<br>
- Put the engine on a stand<br>
- Move Mach I back outside, move Shelley's Jeep back in.<br>
- Remove the engine from the Pantera (time estimate, half a day)<br>
- Remove the decklid<br>
- Drain coolant, unhook hoses, remove radiator (needs new or
rebuilt radiator)<br>
- Drain engine oil<br>
- Drain ZF gear oil<br>
- Unhook fuel line and cork<br>
- Remove carb and distributor, cover holes<br>
- Unhook all wiring, set aside<br>
- Remove A/C compressor (unused currently), set aside<br>
- Unhook/remove starter (get it out of the way)<br>
- Remove A/C Condensor<br>
- Unhook headers<br>
- Unhook transmission linkage<br>
- Unhook transmission wiring<br>
- Unhook half-shafts<br>
- Remove clutch slave, set aside<br>
- Unbolt engine and trans mounts and pull the sucker<br>
- Swap the ZF to the other engine (an hour maybe)<br>
- Swap flywheels (the Mach I is an automatic)<br>
- Install new pilot bearing since the Mach I doesn't have one
(money)<br>
- Install pressure plate and clutch disc (assuming they are
fine, otherwise.... more money)<br>
- Reverse the process on the Pantera (another half day)<br>
<br>
But then.....<br>
- I don't have a well-tuned carb for the Mach I engine. The Carter
AFB on there works, but not as optimally as it should. The Holley
from the Pantera would work, but it's not tuned to the higher
horsepower of the Mach I engine. Do I rebuild and re-tune the
Carter or do I re-jet the Holley?<br>
- I could use the Duraspark distributor from the Mach I in the
Pantera but I'd need to wire up a computer box in the engine
compartment to make it work. Best to do that while the engine is
out. (more money)<br>
- If the engine is out it's a good time to replace the rubber
mounting doughnuts. (more money)<br>
- If the engine is out, it's a good time to re-plumb the cooling
system, ala John Taphorn/Dave Bell's method. (more money and some
creative work in the engine bay)<br>
- Might as well remove the A/C parts for now since they aren't being
used.<br>
<br>
So I look at all this and it just doesn't seem practical. But I get
that darn thundering clapping sound from a good strong V8 engine in
my bones and "practicality" begins to get awfully transparent.<br>
<br>
Bless me father for I have sinned... I have lust for more horsepower
and coveted my neighbors ponies.<br>
<br>
Asa Jay <br>
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<pre class="yiv1265019511moz-signature">& Shelley Marie
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On 12/3/2011 1:48 PM, David in Durango wrote:
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<div>So, you have a "spare" for the Pantera? Hot motor? (well,
usable).</div>
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<div>Swap them out! If you have some emotional attachment to the
Pantera motor, use it for the dream rebuild "next winter" [1]
and have some fun in the mean time. I've heard the Pope would
donate labor for 3-4 days if he had a place to stay and
beer/pizza rations. That way, if you dropped something big, you
would have back up! Hell, he might even deliver your new
wheels, too.</div>
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<div>Or you could sit on the porch while the big dawgs play . . .
. . </div>
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<div>Morally unemployed,</div>
<div>David in Durango</div>
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<div>[1] next winter = appropriate economic time</div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TPR] What we
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgh.........<br>
<br>
The more I -SIT- here and dwell on it.....<br>
The more I want to put the 351C from the Mach I into the
Pantera.....<br>
nnnnnnngh......<br>
I know I could have it done in a couple weekends....<br>
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh........<br>
It's winter........<br>
I'm not driving the car......<br>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmph................<br>
Must.... resist.... temptation.<br>
<br>
If I take that engine out of the Mustang... it'll be the death
nell for the car and I can't have that.<br>
<br>
must.... resist....<br>
<br>
Asa Jay<br>
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<div>just in case you've forgotten.</div>
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<div>Snow and low of 16 forecast for tonite!</div>
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