<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span></span></div><div> </div><div><b><font color="#0000ff"><em>Mad Dawg Antenucci <br></em></font><font color="#ff0000">Team Pantera Racing</font></b> </div> <div><i><strong><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#007f7f">The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing </font><br></strong></i><font color="#0000ff"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">www.teampanteraracing.com</a></font></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial">----- Forwarded Message -----<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera@yahoo.com><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "ddrenske@murraycompany.com" <ddrenske@murraycompany.com>; "Miketrusty@msn.com" <Miketrusty@msn.com>; "ddrenke@murraycompany.com" <ddrenke@murraycompany.com>; russell fulp <musclebyrussell@hotmail.com>; David in Durango <adin@frontier.net>; "asajay@asajay.com" <asajay@asajay.com>; eldon hower <e_hower@yahoo.com>; bob Radefeld <bob@radefeld.com>; eldon hower <e_hower@yahoo.com>; Frank Cirrincione <dagored72@att.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> art stephens <artstephens@verizon.net>; Bill Wright <billwright@socal.rr.com>; "tpr@teampanteraracing.com" <tpr@teampanteraracing.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 18, 2011 5:45 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> DIZZY GEAR INSPECTION & THERMOSTAT INSTALLED<br></font><br><div id="yiv446493198"><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; "><div id="yiv446493198"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 14pt; font-family: times, serif; "><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><span id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_1311029985009152">Guys,</span></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><span id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_1311029985009152"><br></span></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948">Attached you will see a couple photos of the bronze gear Art, Bill and I inspected today on my engine. Art did the lions share of teaching and wrenching and Bill and I shared the lions share of eating and drinking and second quessing Art! ;-) </div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><br></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948">So the gear was
pulled, inspected, photographed and then reinstalled...see photos</div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><br></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948">The wear of the teeth was even and minimal...no sharp edges....no damage although the photos have some 'shadows' and flash 'glare; from oil on gear teeth but on close inspection of third photo I think we collectively agreed it was probably good to go for another +/- 500 miles ......maybe changing
it out after Silver State....but please share your opinion on or off line after you view the photos. I have no additional long road trips planned....and the engine again pulled hard and made all the right sounds.</div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><br></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948">The last thing to finish out the punch list of actions was pulling the 160 thermostat and replacing it with a SPECIAL Robert Shaw 180 modified in Saudi (last photo) and adjusting shift linkage. That went equally smooth and compliments to Dick (from Art and Bill) on how much easier the thermosat was to get out and in.....with Dick Drenske's modified cooling system.....you will see a link and photos to the Robert Shaw thermostat that AJ shared with us last week in earlier email from AJ. With everything else done with the fuel injection Saturday and another road test today I should be good to go at SS in
Sept.</div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><br></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948">At the same time I was trying to wrap up the Pantera I was also getting ready to pack and move back up north, spending allot of time on the phone on biz for this new project back in Bay Area and with the planned trip of departure on Thursday or Friday I sure appreciated Art and Bills can-do attitude to help me get it all done.....again, thanks guys. </div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"> <br></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500948"><br></div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500954"> </div><div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500957"><b><font color="#0000ff"><i>Mad Dawg Antenucci <br></i></font><font color="#ff0000">Team Pantera Racing</font></b> </div> <div id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500962"><i><b><font class="yiv446493198Apple-style-span"
color="#007f7f">The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing </font><br></b></i><font color="#0000ff"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">www.teampanteraracing.com</a></font></div><div><br id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500965"></div><div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: times, serif; " id="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500968" class="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500966"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times, serif; " class="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500971"><font size="2" face="Arial">----- Forwarded Message -----<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> asajay@asajay.com<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> bob Radefeld <bob@radefeld.com>; eldon hower
<e_hower@yahoo.com>; Frank Cirrincione <dagored72@att.net>; art stephens <artstephens@verizon.net>; Bill Wright <billwright@socal.rr.com><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:16 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: THERMOSTAT QUESTION<br></font><br><div id="yiv446493198"><style type="text/css"><!--#yiv446493198 DIV {margin:0px;}--></style><div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: times, serif; " class="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500975"><div>Roger that....thanks again
man<br> </div><div><b><font color="#0000ff"><i>Mad Dawg Antenucci <br></i></font><font color="#ff0000">Team Pantera Racing</font></b> </div> <div><i><b><font class="yiv446493198Apple-style-span" color="#007f7f">The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing </font><br></b></i><font color="#0000ff"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">www.teampanteraracing.com</a></font></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: times, serif; " class="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500987"><br><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; " class="yiv446493198yui_3_2_0_15_131102998500989"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "asajay@asajay.com"
<asajay@asajay.com><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> bob Radefeld <bob@radefeld.com>; eldon hower <e_hower@yahoo.com>; Frank Cirrincione <dagored72@att.net>; art stephens <artstephens@verizon.net>; Bill Wright <billwright@socal.rr.com><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, July 13, 2011 10:40:41 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: THERMOSTAT QUESTION<br></font><br>Go here to view photos:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=30481">http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=30481</a><br><br>See the thermostat on the left, the one with the extra copper -hat- attached on the copper plug? THAT is what you want. If it doesn't have that extra piece or "hat" as we call it, then it's
-not- the
right thermostat for the Cleveland.<br><br>The part number I sent earlier for Summit Racing, is the one you want; 333-180<br><br>And then it's just a mess to change.<br>Asa Jay<br><br>Quoting Mad Dog Antenucci <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>>:<br><br>> Guys,<br>> <br>> I just got off the phone with Russ Fulps and he said he definately left the<br>> restrictor plate in so good question and I have the answer.....will call vendors<br>> if I can't find a 180 or 192 Cleveland thermostat.<br>> <br>> Mad Dawg Antenucci<br>> Team Pantera Racing<br>> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing<br><span>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com">www.teampanteraracing.com</a></span><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
________________________________<br>> From: "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:asajay@asajay.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>><br>> To: Mad Dog Antenucci <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Cc: bob Radefeld <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bob@radefeld.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bob@radefeld.com">bob@radefeld.com</a>>; eldon hower <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:e_hower@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:e_hower@yahoo.com">e_hower@yahoo.com</a>>; Frank<br>> Cirrincione <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dagored72@att.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:dagored72@att.net">dagored72@att.net</a>><br>> Sent: Wed, July 13, 2011
9:26:34 AM<br>> Subject: Re: THERMOSTAT QUESTION<br>> <br>> There -is- a difference between Windsor and Cleveland thermostats. Most auto<br>> parts store guys don't have a clue, unless they have gray hair and have
wrenched<br>> for 40 years. There used to be a 180* available as well as 192*. either would<br>> probably work better for you.<br>> <br>> However, we need to know how Russ built the block. Did he leave in the stock<br>> restrictor plate in the block, or not. If so, then a stock Cleveland thermostat<br>> at 180 or 190 should work fine. DO NOT use anything else but a proper Cleveland<br>> thermostat. If the restrictor plate has been blocked, you can use -any- 180 or<br>> 190 thermostat, like the Windsor.<br>> <br>> Post your question to <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a> and I'm sure you'll get Julian<br>> and probably Kirby answer you. There really are only a couple of "proper"<br>> thermostats out there and I think they know the right
manufacturers and part<br>>
numbers. I don't have them handy and don't have time to research it at the<br>> moment.<br>> <br>> Asa Jay<br>> <br>> Quoting Mad Dog Antenucci <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:teampantera@yahoo.com">teampantera@yahoo.com</a>>:<br>> <br>>> Guys another question on thermostats....I called a couple parts joints and<br>>> they<br>>> say there is no difference between a Cleveland and a Windsor thermostat....is<br>>> that true? I understood they are different.<br>>> <br><br><br></div></div>
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