<div><font size="4">Dang, Asa. Hate to hear that news. :o(( I'll check today & see if I've still got the original Telecars that I replaced several years ago off of my car. I had taken the spacers out of them & they were working fine at the time but I decided a good winter project would be to replace them & all my suspension bushings at the same time so that's what I did. If I kept them(CRS?) I'll be happy to give them to you..........I'll check today & let you know!</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:44 PM, David in Durango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adin@frontier.net">adin@frontier.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">First thing, disconnect (one at a time) the shock from one end. You should<br>be able to find the source of your problems.<br>
after that, it only takes money . . .<br><br>good luck.<br><br>David<br>
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<div class="h5">----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <<a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:tpr@teampanteraracing.com">tpr@teampanteraracing.com</a>><br>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:14 PM<br>Subject: [TPR] Riddle me this... noise, shocks and weirdness<br><br><br>> First day of Autocross was today. Test & Tune, practice and blow the<br>> cobwebs away in the head.<br>
><br>> So I know the Pantera needs a new alignment, now I know it even more.<br>> But that's not the real concern here. Some of you may recall I was<br>> chasing an interesting clunk in my front end a while ago. Well, it's<br>
> never really gone away.<br>><br>> The steering rack bushing has been replaced, and it sure feels solid.<br>> All bushings and ball joints have been replaced in the a-arms. Now here<br>> are the interesting parts.<br>
><br>> When I visited Dennis Quella week before last, I walked through all this<br>> with him, Then he asked if I had original shocks on the car, which I<br>> do. He then mentioned there are some internal "bits" (as Mike Drew<br>
> would say) that "break" if the suspension is left hanging on the<br>> shocks. This is the position most of our cars are in when we are doing<br>> a lot of work on them for extended periods of time. (listening Frank)<br>
> I tell him I have original Telecars on the Pantera. He says he can't be<br>> sure, but I might want to check that out as a source.<br>><br>> Fast forward to today. About my fourth run on the course today, I start<br>
> hearing a nasty thunk anytime I radically change direction, like in a<br>> slalom. I'm starting to get worried now. Did I break an a-arm tab?<br>> Did I break a sway bar mount? What! (yea.. it's driving me crazy)<br>
><br>> I get home and just got back from inspecting the front end. Wouldn't<br>> you know, everything looks -solid-. But wait for it...<br>><br>> I push down on the front bumper and... nothing. No movement. So I pull<br>
> -up- on the bumper and get about three inches... and it -stays-. I then<br>> do the hip hula with the front fender and can't get any weird noises. I<br>> push the bumper down... it goes about three inches and stays. I do the<br>
> hip hula on the fender and get all kinds of nasty noises... apparently<br>> from the shocks?<br>><br>> Okay, so I'm Mr. poor boy here, yea yea... you've all heard that sad<br>> story. A kind soul sold me what they thought were Konis, which weren't,<br>
> so I subsequently sold them because I couldn't get them rebuilt in the<br>> states (turned out to be a foreign brand). So then some kind soul sent<br>> me a set of "practically brand new" Telecars, which looked in worse<br>
> shape than those already on my car. Swapping a couple of them didn't<br>> seem to make the noise go away and I really can't say I'd prefer<br>> swapping another set of Telecars.<br>><br>> <sigh><br>
> so..... does anyone out there have a set of known good shocks they'd be<br>> willing to "loan" me for about a month so I can determine if this is<br>> really the root problem or not? I'm sure you can probably get them<br>
> packed in a Large Priority Mail Flat Rate box (it's how I shipped those<br>> off brand shocks). I hate to beg. If I had more Pantera people close<br>> by, it probably wouldn't come to this.<br>><br>
> More highlights from today...<br>> - I was the first person to "spin" on the course today, it was actually<br>> a bit of fun even though I took out a few<br>> cones.<br>> - I totally -ate- a cone on exiting a bus-stop gate... so much so that I<br>
> brought it all the way back to grid. On the upside... the license plate<br>> is much more aerodynamic now. :)<br>> - The car ran -great-! The bit of tuning I did late last summer seems<br>> to have made runs a lot smoother.<br>
> - The new graphics look awesome. Photos to come later.<br>><br>> Alright, who wants to loan me a set of shocks?<br>><br>> Asa Jay<br>><br>> --<br>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>> & Shelley Marie<br>
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