[TPR] The Germans project

David Carpenter davecarp80138 at outlook.com
Fri May 31 08:22:38 PDT 2024


Ethanol: gas lines:
Older cars, older gas lines: YES, IT'S EXTREMELY HARD on them.  But mostly on higher percentages of ethanol.
Rusty / Compromise fuel tanks: ethanol is an extreme cleaner.  It'll break the rust loose & clog the filter.....again & again!!!

Newer vehicles: fuel lines handle it fine.  They also aren't old enough to have rusty tanks....& the ratio of the blend is pretty mild
Vehicles DESIGNED as dual fuel:
ZERO ISSUES, even at higher % of ethanol.
But they have a sticker telling you max% to use. (E85 for example)

I did some math a few years ago.
"What is the cost per mile of reg gas v/s gasohol??"
(Four tanks of fuel: 2 gasoline/ 2 reg gas)

My result on my dual fuel Yukon:
Gasohol price per gallon has to be '70%' of regular gas to equal cost per mile.
It's NEVER TRUE!!

BTW: dual fuel vehicles: factory ratings:
Mpg is based on gas.
HP is based on gasohol.

"We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we will hang seperately!"
Benjamin Franklin, in regards to Unity & Strength in Declaration of Independence.
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From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 8:59:09 AM
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: Chris Terp <chris at theseminargroup.net>; David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com>; Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project

Thanks Asa. Not a subject I know jack about but believe I read that Ethanal in all the gas is tough on fuel lines and engines. Trade off?
MD
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On May 31, 2024, at 6:50 AM, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

You’ll see a third pump handle and hose at most gas stations in WA now.  It’s blue and supposedly pumps ethanol free fuel at a premium price.  Is it worth it?  We’ve tried it and not seen any improvements in mileage or power.  I’ll stick to the highest octane I can get.

Asa  Jay

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On May 30, 2024, at 19:57, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:

Chris,
Methanol FREE?
Is that possible in Washington?
Am I mistaken that all gas sold had Methanol?

MD



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On May 30, 2024, at 11:24 AM, Chris Terp via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:



Asa, keep the car as long as you want.  Also I only use methanol free fuel, but it’s only 89 octane.



Christopher Terp

The Seminar Group



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Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project



 Self Control for Asa?

HAHAHA



MD



On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 06:46:36 AM PDT, David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com<mailto:davecarp80138 at outlook.com>> wrote:





Never....I mean NEVER leave your car@ MY place with a Full Tank!!!



That would be just foolish!!!!



I can be trusted just soo far ya know!!!

Asa may have better Self Control!!!

😅😂



"We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we will hang seperately!"

Benjamin Franklin, in regards to Unity & Strength in Declaration of Independence.

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Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project



Well between Chris's and my Pantera don;t you already have too many?

[Emoji][Emoji]



MD



On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:57:07 PM PDT, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com<mailto:tpr at teampanteraracing.com>> wrote:





Only if someone loans me one.

😁😁

Asa  Jay



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On May 28, 2024, at 11:31, DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com<mailto:tpr at teampanteraracing.com>> wrote:

Hey Team,
Peter-the-Germans major paint project photos update. Beautiful work Peter!!

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I know Asa is wrenching on Chris’ pantera, and Gerry has a ZF that needs some work and Cory/rookie is ironing out electronics, and Lee has machine shop  finishing up work on his new engine and I am trying to sort out a wheel and tire order is anyone else out there planning to run a pantera in Sept.?

Mark in the Z06
JB in his C8
Paul in his Viper
Laurie in anything she wants 🫣

Leaving anyone out here?

Thanks

MD

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