[TPR] Fwd: 200 MPH AT silver State?

Mon Jun 3 06:07:53 PDT 2024

 All,That event was the first time we ever hung out for very long with Rick and Merle. We knew them both but having their Camaro and tow rig parked next to ours meant we would see and share with them all weekend. And JB is referring to Merle's mother (Bunny Hill), who is the SSCC event director who was there as well all weekend.

Dennis
    On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 04:46:05 PM PDT, John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com> wrote:  

 I think about him and bunny every time I get in my car. So many ways to die. JB 
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On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:47 PM, DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

 Nice JB! 🙏🏼

MD
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On Jun 2, 2024, at 2:28 PM, John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com> wrote:

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Still on my carJB

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On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:57 PM, DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

I remember the crash Owen. Years start to fade….but our  team was parked next to Rick and Merl and Ricks Camaro all weekend in our usual spot in the Nevada Overflow Lot. 

Soul crushing when they died. MD
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On Jun 1, 2024, at 8:49 PM, Owen Lee Green <oneeyez4263 at gmail.com> wrote:

Dawg that was 2012 he was on a tear for the record when Rick and Merl crashed.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 8:46 PM DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

Well said Owen. Jim broke the record at Sulver State in2006 in his NASCAR Dodge Charger “averaging” 217 MPH. 
God bless you Jim.
 I know you will be waiting for us to remind us on how slow we were. 
MD
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On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:01 PM, Owen Lee Green via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

Try watching Peruto covering Make or Break stretch in 38 seconds.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 6:57 PM David Carpenter via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

I always said:"At that speed, 'Brain Cells' actually WORK AGAINST YOU!!"
2,480 lb car & 800 hp certainly helped propel the car into the insane area!!It was WIDE & pushed a LOT of air. But that width & 12" wide Nascar slicks was perfect for my meager mental status!!I'VE LOVED Corners all my life!!!
Dave Golder used to address people's questions the same way."If you want to go faster, it's Easy!!  It just takes $$$$$!!!Best guess it takes a 100 HP to get 10 mph faster!!"
He wasn't far from the truth!!
Charlie had been making mods for years.  Still was short of the 200 mark!!  He finally built an 'Aero nose' for the car....& that gave him the next 10+ mph!!!Not bad for a guy who spent his life well above the 'Sound Barrier' in fighters!!!  (Guarding the skies above YOU & brother Rick in Nam!!)
DC
From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI 

PS helps if you are a little MAD!
MD

From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:41:39 AM
To: David C <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> 

Love reading that Dave…you did 200+ in your old M&M race car so your opinion on TPR always appreciated. 
There is so much happening up at elevation at Silver State. Add in all the other factors like wind and temp etc. And a 50 year old car with 500 HP
Art Stephens and I both used Russ Fulps to build our stroker engines…he build his stroker engine with a higher 3.77 ring gear and taller (.655?) 5th gear OD like mine and and down at sea level on the OC toll road we both maxed out at 183 at WOT with similar 830cfm carbs with no air damn or ground affects. Up on course at Silver State with some ground affects the most I could tab out in max speed was 177 or about 6 mph  slower. That was with the big cow catcher air dam teched for 180 in Super Sport division. 200 Mph? No where even close to 200. 
Larry believed he did 200 MPH with a similar stroker as Art and I but he added many more aero mods to bottom of his Pantera. And a gurney lift on ass end…actually my old one off the burnt up Pantera!🫣

So debate or conversation continues on 200 MPH at Silver State in a Pantera. junior averaged 177 (?) with a race built 429ci. I recall that engine made 650 RWHP…and he said he could not tap out more then 185….it was  not the later tube framed pantera (replica?) like the later race pantera he crashed in 1987 when we were in Ely together. Only pantera thing about thst beast was his sugar scoop in back. 
My happy-place in my pantera since 2013 has been a 140-145 average. This year it may be less! Much less.Haha
Keep the 200 MPH conversation alive! Someone with a TURBO in a pantera is gonna hit 200. Waiting for that to happen.
MD, blind, death, and still thinking he is living forever!
Ps ordering 200 MPH wheels and tires this month!

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On May 31, 2024, at 9:04 AM, David Carpenter via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

Ethanol / Carburetors: they have LOTS of seals gaskets.  Mostly designed 20 years before ethanol used 'on the street'!!!Very Wise to avoid!!
Joel Hannig ran pure alcohol.  Used a FIFTY GALLON fuel cell because it used sooo much!!
I ran 1,350 degrees on pyrometer in M&M car.  & got 3.5 mpg & could make one run on 20 gallon tank.
Joel probably got 1.5 - 2 mpg.
Jetting for fuel type, just as big as altitude.....or even more soo!!!

DCFrom: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 9:52:53 AM
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Cc: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; Chris Terp <chris at theseminargroup.net>; David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com>; Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project Awesome!Great conversation.Thanks Larry!
TGIF
MD

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On May 31, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Larry Stock via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

I use ethanol free in anything with a carburetor. An Ethanol engine needs nearly twice the fuel flow as a gasoline engine, so as a rule of thumb, 10% ethanol will lean out the fuel burn about 5%, or you should put bigger fuel jets in to compensate.

Larry

From: TPR <tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Reply-To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Date: Friday, May 31, 2024 at 6:50 AM
To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com>
Cc: Chris Terp <chris at theseminargroup.net>, David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com>, Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project

You’ll see a third pump handle and hose at most gas stations in WA now.  It’s blue and supposedly pumps ethanol free fuel at a premium price.  Is it worth it?  We’ve tried it and not seen any improvements in mileage or power.  I’ll stick to the highest octane I can get.

Asa  Jay

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On May 30, 2024, at 19:57, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:

Chris,

Methanol FREE?

Is that possible in Washington? 

Am I mistaken that all gas sold had Methanol?

MD

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On May 30, 2024, at 11:24 AM, Chris Terp via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

Asa, keep the car as long as you want.  Also I only use methanol free fuel, but it’s only 89 octane.

Christopher Terp

The Seminar Group

From: TPR <tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com>On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci via TPR
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 7:05 PM
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com>
Cc: Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project

 Self Control for Asa?

HAHAHA

MD

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 06:46:36 AM PDT, David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com> wrote:

Never....I mean NEVER leave your car@ MY place with a Full Tank!!!

That would be just foolish!!!!

I can be trusted just soo far ya know!!!

Asa may have better Self Control!!!

😅😂

"We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we will hang seperately!"

Benjamin Franklin, in regards to Unity & Strength in Declaration of Independence.

From: TPR <tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com> on behalf of Mad Dog Antenucci via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 7:12:46 AM
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] The Germans project

Well between Chris's and my Pantera don;t you already have too many?

MD

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:57:07 PM PDT, Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

Only if someone loans me one.

😁😁

Asa  Jay

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On May 28, 2024, at 11:31, DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:

Hey Team,
Peter-the-Germans major paint project photos update. Beautiful work Peter!!

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I know Asa is wrenching on Chris’ pantera, and Gerry has a ZF that needs some work and Cory/rookie is ironing out electronics, and Lee has machine shop  finishing up work on his new engine and I am trying to sort out a wheel and tire order is anyone else out there planning to run a pantera in Sept.?

Mark in the Z06
JB in his C8
Paul in his Viper
Laurie in anything she wants 🫣

Leaving anyone out here?

Thanks

MD

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