[TPR] Fwd: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes

DENNIS ANTENUCCI teampantera at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 9 21:16:07 PST 2023


FYI

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com>
> Date: January 9, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM PST
> To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Cc: David Carpenter <davecarp80138 at outlook.com>, Lee Pedersen <salemmotorsport at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes
> 
> Mr President,
> You think adding a roll bar is a good idea? 
> 
> I do too….it’s a GREAT  idea….Mark already is planning to add one to his future C8.
> 
> I already have the answer for the C8 that already applies to C7’s and Vipers and others and that is what I am going with. 
> 
> GM provided position to NASA (North American Racing Association) and if it’s good enough for NASA it’s good enough for me but that’s just my personal opinion. 🙂
> 
> And let me confirm again Mr President there is no as in zero roll over protection on the “Pantera”…we do agree on that….. As I said already the rules dictate that for a PANTERA you need a roll bar if you want to run in the Grand Touring Division. 
> 
> Think it is an excellent rule.  
> 
> Good Times
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> Just a quick Internet search showed up a forum posting that indicated only the C8R has factory rollover protection for most track style events, not much on details though.  Then I found a few high end vendors making roll bars and cages.  My guess is you’ll need to install something if you want to go faster.
>> 
>> Asa  Jay
>> 
>> 
>> Roll Over Protection for theC8
>> midenginecorvetteforum.com
>> 
>> 
>> https://studiorsr.com/products/corvette-c8-roll-cage-roll-bar
>> 
>> 
>> Chevrolet C8 Corvette Coupe Rollbar
>> rpmrollbar.com
>> 
>> 
>> Sent via radio waves
>> 
>>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 19:04, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Brotha Dave,
>>> You know more Corvette racers then I do but it appears I am the FIRST to ask this “integrated roll protection on C8’s or Z06’s.
>>> 
>>> I have asked the SSCC message board and no replies yet…/also posted two requests to Corvette Forum and no response from any open road racers and Frank/SSCC says he doesn’t know of any C8 or Z06 roll over protection. 
>>> 
>>> Can you check with any of any of your peeps to see if anyone knows or knows who would know at Corvette
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Dawg
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:11 PM, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No reason to….for several years they have been running C7’s etc in Grand Touring with NO roll bar.
>>>> Will see if anyone eventually answers SS message board or Corvette Blog…so far nothing
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>>>  
>>>> From: Asa Jay Laughton
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 4:15 PM
>>>> To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI
>>>> Cc: Lee Pedersen
>>>> Subject: Re: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes
>>>>  
>>>> You should check last years results and maybe year before.  See what speeds the C8’s were running and try to make direct contact.
>>>>  
>>>> Asa  Jay
>>>> 
>>>> Sent via radio waves
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 15:48, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Asa….I just posted to Corvette Forum and specifically asked what spec has allowed earlier C7’s etc to allow not adding a aftermarket “roll bar”.
>>>>  
>>>> And I added just saying the C8 does have an integrated bar (s) for Driver and passenger is NOT enough.
>>>>  
>>>> It would appear I am the first person with a C8 to ask Frank at SS this question and no reply from my message board question either.
>>>>  
>>>> HEY, we are doing some ground breaking here😂😂
>>>>  
>>>> But if there is no spec evidence from a sanctioning GM authority I will be happy not to run faster then a 140 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> MD
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got nuthin’ unless it’s in the owners manual.  It would only make sense if they are promoting it for track use that it has a factory rollover system, but….
>>>>  
>>>> Validation is the key.  Best to check out any C8 forums and hope for the best.
>>>>  
>>>> Asa  Jay
>>>> 
>>>> Sent via radio waves
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 13:02, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Lee & Asa,
>>>>  
>>>> I put a message on SSCC asking af anyone knew about C8 integrated bars for driver and passenger 
>>>>  
>>>> Lee or Asa just thought maybe there is a better way to check with GM. Any other ideas. Next going to Corvette blog
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com>
>>>> Date: January 9, 2023 at 7:44:48 AM PST
>>>> To: Team Racing <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>>>> Subject: SSCC 2023 Rule book changes
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Team,
>>>>  
>>>> A response from SSCC Race Director (Frank McKinnon) on rule changes. 
>>>>  
>>>> Looks like another year with SA2015 helmet…..note his comment on belts and expiration of belts…
>>>>  
>>>> And I will check with Corvette Blog and Vegas Club guys if the C8 has an integrated bar.
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis 
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Frank McKinnon <car33 at att.net>
>>>> Date: January 9, 2023 at 5:18:41 AM PST
>>>> To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: 2023 Rule book changes
>>>> 
>>>> hey,   the helmet  will  be SA 2015  or newer.  
>>>> your  car needs proof it has a bar
>>>> in it.    
>>>> i have not found it for  c8  as  yet   
>>>> perhaps you  have..   if so  please share  it  with me.  
>>>> seat belts   will  expire on dec 31  of the expiration year  written on the belts tag.  
>>>> thanks Frank  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 7, 2023, at 2:09 PM, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <TEAMPANTERA at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A couple questions on rule book….
>>>>  
>>>> 1. For my Pantera team any new rules being added to 2023 like helmets??
>>>>  
>>>> 2. I plan to bring my C8. I assume like the other late model C7’s and Vipers I do ‘not’ need a roll bar for Grand Touring.
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks…. and hope to see you up at PIR in the Spring. 
>>>>  
>>>> Dennis Antenucci
>>>> Team Pantera Racing 
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>  
>>>>  
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