[TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC

mark skwarek ehpantera at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 5 19:19:14 PDT 2022


 Chuck,That's all that I have done. I met with Johnny Woods quite some time ago and was totally impressed with his skills. I also got a front valence panel from him. 
Mark    On Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 07:40:16 PM EDT, Charles Engles via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:  
 
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Dear Mark,

  

                    +6.577 degrees of caster with Johnny Woods modified front upper A arms…….and any other positive caster methods??

  

                     What size tires are you running in front?

  

                                Curious, Chuck Engles

  

From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of ehpantera via TPR
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 6:29 PM
To: Charles Engles
Cc: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Subject: Re: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC

  

Chuck, 

Right now I have 6.5 77 degrees of carter.  I'm happy with that..

Mark 

  

  

  

Sent from my Galaxy

  

  

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From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> 

Date: 4/5/22 9:00 AM (GMT-05:00) 

To: 'ehpantera' <ehpantera at yahoo.com> 

Cc: tpr at teampanteraracing.com 

Subject: RE: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC 

  

Dear Mark,

 

                     I am sure that Johnny’s modified A arms are solid and well done.   Are you using any other methods to increase positive caster?    What is the current positive caster?

 

                               Curious,  Chuck Engles

 

 

From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of ehpantera via TPR
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 7:55 PM
To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI; Charles Engles via TPR
Subject: Re: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC

 

I'm using Johnny Woods modified A arms and am happy with them. 

Mark 

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

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From: DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> 

Date: 4/4/22 7:17 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Charles Engles via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> 

Subject: Re: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC 

 

Hi Doc….thanks…Yea I am definitely looking at both. Although I hear there is a better unit out there which Asa is looking at for me. 👍🏼

 

Dennis

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On Apr 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Charles Engles via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:




Dear Dennis,

 

                 How much positive caster do you have now?   I am keen to know if you will perceive a difference and improvement. 

 

                 I would note that our friend Tom Upton was running positive 5-7 degrees and he noted another bit of improvement with the SACC electric power steering unit.  If Tom recommends power steering with big positive castor, then it might be a consideration.

 

                            Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

 

From: TPR [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of DENNIS ANTENUCCI via TPR
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:39 PM
To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Subject: [TPR] 4 TO 4.5 NEG CASTER WITH PPC

 

Afternoon TPR

 

FWIW 

While I already purchased Johnny Woods modified A-Arms where I hope to get 5-7 degrees neg caster…..here is Larry’s mods where he got 4 to 4.5 neg caster. 

 

Dennis

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Larry Stock
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 10:48 AM
To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI
Subject: Re: QUARTER WINDOW RUBBERS

 

I got 4 & 4.5 degrees of caster with the offset bushings and shaving the upper front ball joint.

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I think the Pantera may want up to 6-9 degrees of front caster.

Here are the A-Arm Sectioning and spacer photo’s I have you can work with.

 

Do you have ASA’s Address handy?

 

Larry Stock


Pantera Parts Connection LC
550 Mallory Way
Carson City NV 89701


www.PanteraParts.com
PH  775-283-4411
Fax 775-283-4410
Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627

 

 

 

 


On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:





I have both, I assume you probably want a good used one.

Larry

 

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https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/are-f1-and-nascar-manufacturing-drama/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_NA_EML_UN_SaturdayRoadTrip&hashed_email=fb1f43ec025e8215388f0ce0823a6e37e643701df67837453081ee2c33561ece

 

For the first time since the 1980s, when F1 cars resembled upside-down airplanes, ground effects are utilized in the aero regulations for the new car. Its floor has two large channels running front-to-back. Air travels under the vehicle and through the Venturi-shaped channels, which creates an area of low pressure and “sucks” the car to the track. Since the underside of the car provides much of the grip, the need for air on the wings to generate downforce is reduced. 

 

 


 

 

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