[TPR] Extended A arms

[DENNIS ANTENUCCI]

Thanks Mike. I am good until Spring. But I will pass on to other guys on TPR. I for sure want those 6-7 degrees if we can get them. 

Dennis


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> On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> As an interim solution you can machine .100” off the back of the upper front ball joints and insert an extra .100” of shims on the front side. This will give you an extra degree or so. 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 03:42, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> Morning guys,
>> I got the extended rear A arms from Bobby before he passed.  He thought the front offset delrin bushings would get enough caster for 150+ speeds. But at 3-4 it is NOT  on those 2-lane roads at speed. 
>> 
>> I am a couple months away from needing the front A arms. In the meantime I appreciate the feedback.
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Johnny,
>>> 
>>> Some cars suffer from excessive negative camber in the rear. Some vendors make adjustable upper rear A-arms which is super stupid. They are complex and extremely expensive. You don’t need adjustable rear arms, you only need fixed-length arms that are a bit longer. Then you can adjust alignment at the bottom, as normal. 
>>> 
>>> Byars and Hall used to offer the less expensive, simpler version for half the cost, but with Bobby’s untimely death the source for producing them has been lost. :(
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 22:52, John Woods <johnnyrwoods at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike, Dennis,
>>>> 
>>>> I can do the arms. I charge £400 for the service, this includes a welded-on camber lock adjuster.
>>>> The cost to ship the arms back to you is £42.50
>>>> 
>>>> Please make sure you mark the value way down when you ship them to me because we will have to pay something to HMRC when they arrive. I can theoretically I can claim this back as I am returning them to you, but it's so much paperwork it's not worth my time.
>>>> 
>>>> With original ball joints it is possible to get 7 degrees of castor, but I have found  in the past Wilkinson's new ball joints don't have quite as mush sideways movement (misalignment) so 6 degrees may be more realistic with new joints; unless they vary from batch to batch?
>>>> 
>>>> What mod do they do to the rear arms, Mike?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Johnny
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>>> To: DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com>; johnny at harlywax.co.uk
>>>> Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 3:33
>>>> Subject: Re: Extended A arms
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis,
>>>> 
>>>> Good hearing from you!
>>>> 
>>>> Yes Pat Mical taught Johnny Woods how to do the upper front A-arm modification. It’s not extended—you are thinking of the rear A-arms. Instead, the back leg is straightened. That allows much more caster. 
>>>> 
>>>> Ordinarily you would have to ship him your A-arms which he would convert and ship back to you, which would all take time.  As luck would have it, I happen to have a set of his already modified arms sitting on my shelf. I could send them to you, you could send your old ones to him, he could modify those and then send them to me. And you would pay him for the conversion and shipping and pay me nothing. His does that sound?
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> > On Sep 21, 2021, at 07:57, DENNIS ANTENUCCI <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hey Brotha
>>>> > 
>>>> > How ya doing? Doing great and Asa and I driving back from SSCC road race where I averaged 144.
>>>> > 
>>>> > One thing I am interested in doing is increasing caster to 6-7 + improve high speed stability. What is your take on that? 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Who sells them and what is cost? I have the offset bushings but all I have is 4-5. Its a bug improvement over stock but at 150++ it could use more. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > So until my C8 arrives share your genius. 
>>>> > Pat Mical and Johnny Woods were names Doc Engles mentioned to me.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Dennis
>>>> > 
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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