[TPR] can you do the alphabet backwards if asked?
laurieferrari at aol.com
laurieferrari at aol.com
Mon Jul 27 11:36:31 PDT 2015
http://biggeekdad.com/2013/06/best-dui-stop-ever/
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From: Mad Dog Antenucci via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; tpr <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [TPR] Ferrari Steering Rack Comparison
okay so share your or Marks view on comparing the stock POS rack with this new Ferrari rack
And no jokes about Lauri Ferrari either.
From: Asa Jay Laughton via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Ferrari Steering Rack Comparison
Ah contrair mon frair,
What we are doing is taking a Ferrari rack and -modifying- it, so it is
-better- than a Ferrari rack, thereby making it (nearly) a stock
DeTomaso Pantera rack.
Don't make me make Bullet hurt you.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 7/25/2015 11:32 PM, TeamPantera via TPR wrote:
> A Ferrari rack?
> Are you kidding....your not stock anymore...and Mark got one too?
>
> Not even stock now huh..what CHEATERS ;-)
>
> Asa Jay Laughton via TPR< tpr at teampanteraracing.com> wrote:
>
>> My apologies, some of you will get this twice (once as POCA and once as TPR)
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Since I've not seen another real comparison yet, I figured I'd pop in
>> here. Attached are all the photos that accompany this comparison.
>>
>> I recently needed a steering rack to do a comparison with the one
>> installed in my Pantera. This was because a friend drove the car and
>> said he felt the rack was dangerous and should be fixed or replaced.
>> The easiest thing to do was to make a comparison.
>>
>> Peter (The German) Menyhart of The Whitehorse Ranch, fellow Pantera
>> owner and racer, just happened to have one of the ebay Ferrari steering
>> racks everyone has been talking about. He graciously shipped it to me
>> so I could do my comparison. Peter is in the midst of a restoration
>> project and is able to part with it for a while.
>>
>> The rack is very well packaged in an oversize box. It does not come
>> with tie-rod ends installed. The boots are a big larger than stock
>> DeTomaso, and they are clamped on with those funny one-time use on the
>> large end and a friction/spring on the small end.
>>
>> The movement of the rack feels rather stiff, not as hard as the one out
>> of my car but still not quite "like butter." However, you'll note from
>> the photos the tension can be adjusted without the use of shims. I will
>> work with that later. So far, one plus for this rack.
>>
>> I took measurements of the tube diameter in the mounting bracket areas.
>> The two tubes are within .005" at each location. The overall length is
>> the same as my Pantera rack. The big difference, as has been mentioned,
>> is in the drivers side bracket area which contains raised ribs for
>> either side of the bracket.
>>
>> Now, here is where I discovered something interesting. I was having a
>> very difficult time getting a good reading with my inside calipers of
>> that area. The bracket was easy to measure at 0.624" outside dimension
>> but the space on both racks measured at about 0.555" in width and that
>> didn't make sense.
>>
>> Well, I had to put my grandpa glassed on, but found the reason. Nearly
>> the entire ridge on the Pantera rack has a shoulder on it, that goes
> >from about 0.055" at the bottom against the tube, to just under 0.624"
>> at the outermost edge. Looking at the photos of the bracket you'll note
>> it too has a bevel cut into the semi-circle. In my case the brackets
>> still don't fit quite flush to the Pantera rack.
>>
>> The brackets -don't- fit the Ferrari rack at all. You'll note from the
>> close-up of that rack, there really isn't any bevel to it at all; it's
>> nearly 0.555" from tube to outer edge. In order to get this to the
>> 0.624" it needs to be to accept the brackets, I'll need to machine about
>> .070" split more or less equally on both sides of the channel.
>>
>> The last thing to note is that the tie-rods are a bit beefier. However,
>> they -are- cut with the same diameter and thread as the Pantera rack.
>> In the photo of the tie-rod ends, you see the Pantera rack with the lock
>> nut on the tie-rod end, and a used/spare/old Pantera tie rod threaded
>> onto the Ferrari rack.
>>
>> So there you have it. The rack is nearly identical with the exception
>> of beefier tie-rods (good thing), adjustable tension adjust (good
>> thing), and narrow mounting bracket channel (bad thing but workable).
>>
>> Mark Skwarek recently did one of these for his Pantera as well and used
>> an end mill with the rack mounted in a vise, cutting a path, turning the
>> rack and cutting again until he got all the way around. That's probably
>> what I'll do as well.
>>
>> The best thing would be to completely disassemble the rack and chuck it
>> up on a lathe, but I really don't want to take it apart; after all, it's
>> not really my rack. :)
>>
>> There, any questions?
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> --
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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