[TPR] Opinions on oil

Sat Aug 3 19:59:00 PDT 2013

I was just bustin your chops buddy....totally agree with you and AJ its good insurance.
Can't wait to see everyone .

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 From: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org>
To: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>; "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com> 
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Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Opinions on oil

Well, Mr Dawg, it is part of a pattern I have followed with every car I have run at SSCC for 20+ years - and in that time I have never had an engine issue and only one DNF :-) (darned convertible top blew off) And some of those engines had north of 100K miles on them... so while I don't run as fast as you (insane BTW) I always finish and normally 2nd or 3rd in my class :-)

In September one more try for 1st... final work on the secret weapons should happen this week... AJ - you should order that computer, after my oscilloscope arrives Monday and I do a final test I can send you a programmed flash card and handmade circuit board :-)

And Mr Dawg - I do NOT change my own oil - I take it to a nice place with a case of amzoil and my non-stock size oil filter and have them do it :-)

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Steven Donegan
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

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 From: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org>; "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com> 
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Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Opinions on oil

Irish, you are on crack and if you ar not you should be ;-)>
You just brought that var home new and you were already tearing it down, modifying it, changing it, fooling with the electronics....and 3,750 miles on Amzoil at those Mike Drewster speeds....wigga pleeeze! You need a drink worse then I do.
Micjael, this is the first time you have made sense so yea I agree with ya but I KNOW why Irish changes the oil....its cool to change it. Neighbors come by, they think,
'Wow he is a racer AND he does his own work too....wow I want to marry him'
Okay tats wot the gay guys say anyway.
But Okay changing my dino VR1 racer oil and my mongo HP-6 racer filter, now going over to Dicks shop to meet him and Russ because they DO know what they are doing and I dont ;-)>
Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> wrote:
>Well, I change my oil 2 times/year - a month before May and a month before September (reminds me to get it done soon). The Z's interval is 3750 miles (why that number I do not know) - and I rarely drive it that much in a year. I run Amzoil synthetic normally used for fleet usage (translation 2x-3x the change interval is normal) so it looks/smells the same going in and coming out - probably could run it for several years without issues but it is on my list of todo's prior to any race.
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>Twere it me I'd change it, drive it a bit, make sure no leaks/oil level is good and run it...
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>To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> 
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>Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 2:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [TPR] Opinions on oil
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>IMHO you should be fine using the old oil that is in there. Oil doesn't break down by age ( or else we wouldn't have any since it is milllions of years old ) but by use. Having said that, I of course mean Dino based lubricants, if it is synthetic based, despite the mileage, I would change it and I say that only because I do not know what is in it and how volitile those chemical compounds may be over time.
>The up side is supreme confidence for less than $100, the downside is total devastation that could cost tens of thousands (???) Of dollars.
>At 180 mph plus, do you really want one more thing to think about?
>Michael Shortt
>On Aug 3, 2013 2:40 AM, "TPR" <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Guys
>>At the risk of sounding gay here I gotta ask if I really need to change oil....it looks no different then it did a year ago...maybe 500 miles on this change (VR1 race) since sept 2012...assuming or hoping Russ or Dick find nothing out of the ordinary tomorrow is changing this oil really a need or a want?
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>>What I want is a 6' blonde from Sweden with big tata's or is it what I need?
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>>Doc, you may need to chime in here....My S.O. is a therapist but in this case discretion may be the better part of my staying alive so this subject can only be discussed with my homies.
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>>Yea ok I will have one more shot of Drumbie ;-)
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Well, I change my oil 2 times/year - a month before May and a month before September (reminds me to get it done soon). The Z's interval is 3750 miles (why that number I do not know) - and I rarely drive it that much in a year. I run Amzoil synthetic normally used for fleet usage (translation 2x-3x the change interval is normal) so it looks/smells the same going in and coming out - probably could run it for several years without issues but it is on my list of todo's prior to any race.

Twere it me I'd change it, drive it a bit, make sure no leaks/oil level is good and run it...

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Steven Donegan
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

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 From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> 
Cc: TPR List <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Opinions on oil

IMHO you should be fine using the old oil that is in there. Oil doesn't break down by age ( or else we wouldn't have any since it is milllions of years old ) but by use. Having said that, I of course mean Dino based lubricants, if it is synthetic based, despite the mileage, I would change it and I say that only because I do not know what is in it and how volitile those chemical compounds may be over time.
The up side is supreme confidence for less than $100, the downside is total devastation that could cost tens of thousands (???) Of dollars.
At 180 mph plus, do you really want one more thing to think about?
Michael Shortt
On Aug 3, 2013 2:40 AM, "TPR" <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

Guys
>At the risk of sounding gay here I gotta ask if I really need to change oil....it looks no different then it did a year ago...maybe 500 miles on this change (VR1 race) since sept 2012...assuming or hoping Russ or Dick find nothing out of the ordinary tomorrow is changing this oil really a need or a want?
>
>What I want is a 6' blonde from Sweden with big tata's or is it what I need?
>
>Doc, you may need to chime in here....My S.O. is a therapist but in this case discretion may be the better part of my staying alive so this subject can only be discussed with my homies.
>
>Yea ok I will have one more shot of Drumbie ;-)
>
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