[TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat

asajay at asajay.com asajay at asajay.com
Mon Jun 18 11:46:50 PDT 2012 

I'd like fatter tires in the back too.  If I move up to the Pilot PS2,  
then I can go as much as 275 and probably get away with it.  Nothing  
larger than 245 in the Pilot Super Sport series.  If I go with the PS2  
series, the price goes up another $30 a tire.

Though it does look like a $70 rebate is available which would ease the pain.
:)

Asa Jay

Quoting Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org>:

> Well, the tire size is dependent on the rim width - if they will fit  
>  then go for what you can afford. For a Pantera I would want fatter   
> tires in the rear.
>
>  
> ____________
> Steven Donegan
> SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
> www.sscc.us
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: "asajay at asajay.com" <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>
> I sent an email to Eric yesterday and I'm waiting on a reply.
>
> If he's partial to Michelin Pilots, then maybe I'll go with the
> Michelin Pilot Super Sport:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport&partnum=245YR7PSSXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
>
> Next question, would it be a problem to run different size front/rear 
> if the rims are the same width?
>
> I'm looking at 245/40/17 for the Front
> and 245/45/17 for the Rear, just to get a little more height.  Even 
> then it's nearly two inches shorter than stock.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org>:
>
>> Twere it me, and I actually owned a Pantera instead of a ricer, I  
>> would change rims to something modern so tire choices would be  
>> available. I think that is what Asa Jay is doing (smart move). For 
>
>> SSCC you just need to have tires with equal to or better than
> stock 
>> in load and speed rating - if you can make the mustang rims work  
>> then go for Y rated and a load factor better than stock and you're 
>
>> good.
>>
>> My 370Z has ~8000 miles on it, I may replace the tires before the  
>> next race for safety reasons, Michelin Pilot series is what Eric  
>> recommended and what I will buy. And hey - that means I can turn
> off 
>> the traction control and burn the bridgestones :-) (the car has
> been 
>> slightly modified and has ~450 HP - not bad for an NA 6) :-)
>>
>>  
>> ____________
>> Steven Donegan
>> SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
>> www.sscc.us
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>   From: John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com>
>> To: Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>; Steven Donegan  
>> <steve at donegan.org>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; "  
>> tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>>
>>
>> you got that right.  I see sooo many Pantera owners that won't
> think twice about cruising down a 2-lane country road with a latte in
> one hand while talking on the phone and driving at 100 MPH, but they
> think running an ORR at 95 is just too risky.  Crazy mofo's.  There is
> no getting around the fact that ORR's are dangerous, but so is
> spinning off the road into the weeds while screwing around.  There
> have been more than one "listers" in the last 10 years do just
> that......makes me chuckle a bit. :).  If you approach ORR's with a
> healthy helping of caution, it is a lot of fun!  You just have to get
> out there and actually find out what your can and cannot do.  Get the
> best safety stuff you can afford and go out and practice on a track.
>>
>>
>> The Michelin Pilot MXX3's were the best ORR tire, but they are not
> made any more.  I have some Dunlops on my car now, but I don't think
> there are any available ORR tires made in both 335/35/17's and
> 245/45/16's that fit my campy clones.  I'll have to buy new wheels
> when these wear out or get too old.  Probably have to go with those
> giant tractor tires like the DaWg next go round.  Those are from John
> Deere, right?  Nothing runs like a Deere :)
>>
>>
>> JB
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>   From: Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>> To: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org>; Asa Jay Laughton  
>> <asajay at asajay.com>; " tpr at teampanteraracing.com"  
>> <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>>
>>
>> As JB says open road racing ain't for everyone.
>> Yea high speed blow outs are butt ugly.
>> Michelin are good and so are others but go with the best if you
> are 
>> ever gonna push the limit. Consider even asking Eric as he has  
>> collected some data on what tires perform well and which ones have 
>
>> not....and the results might surprise ya.....He's more opinionated 
>
>> then Durango Dave but don't be afraid to ask....
>> I've been Lucky with ORR  tires but I've replaced them often and
> only run high speed Y (186 mph) rated high performance tires......no
> race tires and no shaved tires...then I ain't going as fast as Irish
> Donegan or Durango Dave either!
>> Having said that Tire Tech do a good job of checking tires at
> pre-grid where they inspect all tires of all entries and every year
> they find at least one tire one car with a piece of debris/bolt/etc.
> And thats before you even leave the starting line.  But then you know
> all that already.
>> Once you START your on your own....you might be thinking, "hey did
> I 
>> REMEMBER to add a couple extra pounds of air before I got down to  
>> pregrid at 6am"....
>> And then did I remember again to check air pressure and bleed off
> any excess air before I got strapped in the car....and then  remember
> sometimes we have had snow and ice on the cars at SS in September
> temps at 6 am leaving Ely can be 30 degrees warmer by the time you get
> to Lund and Pre-grid.
>> I don't ever forget the accidents I've seen in orr competition in  
>> Nevada, Nebraska, Texas and Mexico. So I always check my tires
> 3-4-5 
>> times....you scared yet? GOOD! ;-)>
>> I am SCAREDeverytime...Headed home next week..remind me to check
> my 
>> tires! Hell remind me to check those Boeng 777 tires.
>> YEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAA
>> PS Watch those speeds over the mogels
>> Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> wrote:
>>> For autocross if a tire fails likely you'll just eat a cone or
> hay 
>>> bail. At SSCC if one blows you could lose your life...so run
> cheap 
>>> (I use the term loosely) ones for AC and get some real serious
> ones 
>>> for SSCC - run flats if you can... My next set will likely be  
>>> Michelin pilot series...
>>>
>>>  
>>> ____________
>>> Steven Donegan
>>> SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
>>> www.sscc.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:13 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>>>
>>> That actually sounds like decent advice doc.  :)
>>> Spend a little now, find out how well the car drives and then get
> real
>>> spendy tires.
>>>
>>> I see what others have to say as well.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> &  Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>> ******************************
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/17/2012 5:30 AM,  Charles Engles wrote:
>>>> Dear Asa,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                  That might have been me.   I put some Sumitomos
> HTZ on the
>>>> more genteel Pantera about eight years (?) ago.   They were
> inexpensive and
>>>> I think that they're a good value.  The tires you're looking at
> are HTZ II.
>>>> I certainly can't tell you about the latest iteration nor about
> how well
>>>> they would tolerate and perform under autocross conditions. 
> IMHO,  "they
>>>> are good tires, but certainly not great tires".    Another way to
> think
>>>> about them: if they're in your budget and you've upgraded the
> suspension,
>>>> then buy'em and flog'em.   With the new set up, you'll still be
> ahead of the
>>>> stock set up and once you've taken the measure of the new set up
> and worn
>>>> out the Sumis, then you can plan for something else.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                             Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
>>>> [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay
> Laughton
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:48 PM
>>>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>>> Subject: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>>>>
>>>> I'm now looking for good tires to put on the Pantera.  I'm
> looking for
>>>> something both street and race.  I could go with another set of
> Toyo Proxes
>>>> 888, but I don't really think I need to do that.  Especially when
> they are
>>>> over $200 each and I'm 'trying to save some money here.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I'd like to keep it all under $150 each if I could.  I
> know the
>>>> better tires are probably going to be near $200, and if I need
> to, I'll go
>>>> there.  Before I do though, I'd like to get some tire opinions.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically I'm looking at a name I've not seen before,
> Sumitomo:
>>>>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+Z+II
>>>> &partnum=44WR7HTRZ2V2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
>>>>
>>>> I thought I'd heard someone else say something about them so they
> caught my
>>>> eye.
>>>>
>>>> I used to be a big fan of Pirelli, then I was a loyal Goodyear
> customer for
>>>> years.
>>>> The Pirelli's are a bit steep.
>>>> If I go with Goodyear, it would most likely be the Eagle F1
> Asymmetric or
>>>> the Eagle GT.
>>>>
>>>> Well, if nothing else.... 17" wheels have given me a whole lot
> more choices
>>>> for rubber.
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> &   Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>> ******************************
>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>>
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>> For autocross if a tire fails likely you'll just eat a cone or hay 
>
>> bail. At SSCC if one blows you could lose your life...so run cheap 
>
>> (I use the term loosely) ones for AC and get some real serious
> ones 
>> for SSCC - run flats if you can... My next set will likely be  
>> Michelin pilot series...
>>  
>> ____________
>> Steven Donegan
>> SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
>> www.sscc.us
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>   From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>>
>> That actually sounds like decent advice doc.  :)
>> Spend a little now, find out how well the car drives and then get
> real
>> spendy tires.
>>
>> I see what others have to say as well.
>> Thanks,
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &  Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2012 5:30 AM,  Charles Engles wrote:
>>> Dear Asa,
>>>
>>>
>>>                  That might have been me.   I put some Sumitomos
> HTZ on the
>>> more genteel Pantera about eight years (?) ago.   They were
> inexpensive and
>>> I think that they're a good value.  The tires you're looking at
> are HTZ II.
>>> I certainly can't tell you about the latest iteration nor about
> how well
>>> they would tolerate and
>>   perform under autocross conditions.  IMHO,  "they
>>> are good tires, but certainly not great tires".    Another way to
> think
>>> about them: if they're in your budget and you've upgraded the
> suspension,
>>> then buy'em and flog'em.   With the new set up, you'll still be
> ahead of the
>>> stock set up and once you've taken the measure of the new set up
> and worn
>>> out the Sumis, then you can plan for something else.....
>>>
>>>
>>>                             Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
>>> [mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay
> Laughton
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:48 PM
>>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>> Subject: [TPR] Tires for Asa's Cat
>>>
>>> I'm now looking for good tires to put on the Pantera.  I'm looking
> for
>>> something both street and race.  I could go with another set of
> Toyo Proxes
>>> 888, but I don't really think I need to do that.  Especially when
> they are
>>> over $200 each and I'm 'trying to save some money here.
>>>
>>> In fact, I'd like to keep it all under $150 each if I could.  I
> know the
>>> better tires are probably going to be near $200, and if I need to,
> I'll go
>>> there.  Before I do though, I'd like to get some tire
>>   opinions.
>>>
>>> Specifically I'm looking at a
>>   name I've not seen before, Sumitomo:
>>>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+Z+II
>>> &partnum=44WR7HTRZ2V2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
>>>
>>> I thought I'd heard someone else say something about them so they
> caught my
>>> eye.
>>>
>>> I used to be a big fan of Pirelli, then I was a loyal Goodyear
> customer for
>>> years.
>>> The Pirelli's are a bit steep.
>>> If I go with Goodyear, it would most likely be the Eagle F1
> Asymmetric or
>>> the Eagle GT.
>>>
>>> Well, if nothing else.... 17" wheels have given me a whole lot
> more choices
>>> for rubber.
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>> --
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> &   Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>> ******************************
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>>
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