[TPR] Wheel hub centric rings

Fri Jun 15 11:07:42 PDT 2012

YOU da man!

David in Durango <adin at frontier.net> wrote:

>Asa Jay, you copulating rodent . . .
>
>Two hours last night - 1:30 - 4ish - were spent trying to : remember if 
>hub-centric was better than lug centric; and B) which car/wheels had hub 
>centric rings and which didn't.  sigh . . . . .
>
>Asa's wheels were autox wheels on a hosstang and have never seen high 
>speeds.  what I remember is to torque any lug-centric wheels w/ the tire off 
>the ground and things should be nice.
>
>Private to the sponsorshipthatdoesn'tpaydept:  these events aren't 
>cheepcheep!  Of course, if one has a 800hpblingblingwingedandchained Pantera 
>. . . why wouldn't you take it out and play with it?  Just sitting on the 
>porch with the other fat old dogs was never that appealing to me.
>
>Current plan as of 6/15/12: run the SSSC mile and support the racers.
>
>David in Durango
>Pantera, take it out and play with it!
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
>To: <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:38 AM
>Subject: Re: [TPR] Wheel hub centric rings
>
>
>I should add, these new wheels are lug-centric, which means they use a
>tapered lug nut (my Campy lug nuts work fine) and if mounted correctly
>and torqued to spec, they -should- be centered by the five lug nuts.
>Many cars run with wheels like this.
>
>I've been advised by others however, it would be "better" to be
>hub-centric as it helps eliminate any high speed vibrations due to
>slight imbalance due to the wheel being off-center.  If I don't find a
>good hub-centric ring to use, I may simply skip it and see how it
>feels at 100+.  If there is vibration, I may have to re-think that.
>
>
>Asa Jay
>
>
>Quoting asajay at asajay.com:
>
>> I don't honestly know. Though I do know I have DeTomaso Campy's
>> installed on my Mach I. But I don't know if they are hub-centric
>as
>> it's been 10 years since I put the last set of tires on. Goes to
>show
>> how much I drive it.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>> <sad>
>>
>> Quoting B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> I don't believe my Magnum 500s have a centric hub. Did the Ford
>> factory ship cars with the 500s to the public with out centric
>hubs?
>>>
>>> Bud #3400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 6/15/12, asajay at asajay.com <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: asajay at asajay.com <asajay at asajay.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TPR] Wheel hub centric rings
>>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>>> Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> I need to buy tires, replace the radiator, swap engines, find a
>> car
>>> trailer to borrow, find a truck to borrow and yea... maybe I could
>> be
>>> the fifth wheel.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Asa Jay
>>> - and it might be nice to get a Rookie School waiver too. -
>>>
>>> Quoting Teampantera <teampantera at yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>>> They look great.
>>>> Does this mean you are the 5th wheel for the team at Silver
>> State?
>>>>
>>>> Private to you:
>>>> Any answers from Mike, Jack or Peace Now Larry or any of those
>>> other
>>>> Kalifornia List ,poca pussies you challenged to beat the hell out
>>> of
>>>> if they didn't get their pussy asses to Silver State in they're
>> on
>>>
>>>> who is gonna drive their 800 hp Pantera?
>>>>
>>>> Okay wot about Lauri, Lori or Judy? IF you look behind them you
>>> will
>>>> find the men
>>>>
>>>> I need another beer
>>>>
>>>> Mad Dawg
>>>> Where men are men and women are dingos
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Pantera Research Institute, Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
>>>>> Extension has just completed a test fit of aftermarket Mustang
>>> Cobra R
>>>>> wheels to a 1973 DeTomaso Pantera. Photos and details can be
>> seen
>>> here:
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5037
>>>>>
>>>>> These are 17x9 wheels with a 6" backspace. Clearances and
>> spacing
>>>>> appear to be good with the exception of the front flexible brake
>>> line
>>>>> which we can adjust. However,....
>>>>>
>>>>> We found the wheels are not hub-centric, as we expected with
>>> aftermarket
>>>>> wheels. Measuring the wheel hub and the center hole of the
>wheel
>>> we
>>>>> came up with the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> - hub = 61.773mm (Front)
>>>>> - wheel = 70.866mm
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a -lot- of space to take up, though our measurements may
>> be
>>> a bit
>>>>> off, one can never quite tell in these things. So we are after
>a
>>> set of
>>>>> wheel hub centric rings that will take up the slack. It would
>>> appear
>>>>> our best option might be a set of 71mm x 63.36mm like these:
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automotive-71-6336-Centric-63-36mm/dp/B00280CSBO/ref=sr_1_116?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1339734287&sr=1-116
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we go off and buy a set (not that they are expensive),
>> we'd
>>> like
>>>>> to get more feedback on what others have measured for their
>front
>>> wheel
>>>>> hub diameter (where the wheel fits). If we are measuring
>61.7mm,
>>> that's
>>>>> pretty close to 62mm which would give us about 1mm clearance to
>>> these
>>>>> rings (probably better a smidge loose than too darn tight).
>>>>>
>>>>> And as always, we'd appreciate any opinions out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Next on our list.... Tires!
>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>> <Chief mechanic and research scientist>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>> ******************************
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