[TPR] Still cleaning things for the engine going intothe Pantera

[David in Durango]

It would seem if the problem were a gasket failure that evidence may be 
destroyed.  It would seem a good look at the heads and block in the area 
should be in the plan.

Rings?  They may "look" good and be of low miles, but that thing has sat for 
some years has it not?  As I told Asa, I would err on the side of less labor 
i.e. - its easier to spend a few $ on new rings than to pull the motor and 
do this dance again.  Maybe I'm too lazy?  (Of course, I just went through 
this because of an oil blowby issue.)

We should know the answers before September . . .

David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bentley" <gndplne at yahoo.com>
To: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] Still cleaning things for the engine going intothe 
Pantera


> My guess is the bearing wear is from initial break in from a dirty block 
> but who knows. I would probably do a quick flex hone and a new ring set. 
> Most important: NEVER discard good advice From an expert (in thus case 
> Russ). Find out why plug 5 is nasty BEFORE reassembly. JB
>
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>
> On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
>> Well that's the thing I don't get.  It never was run low on oil, it was
>> never tracked, it was never raced.  It -looks- like it was run low on
>> oil at some point, but I couldn't tell you when.  It looks more like
>> some debris got in there somehow but there is no evidence of
>> overheating, not metal blueing or the kinds of things I'd expect (in
>> addition to the wear) if it had been run low.
>>
>> The cylinders are fine.  If I hone them, it'll take more meat out and I
>> don't want to do that.  I may berry-brush them but certainly not hone 
>> them.
>>
>> The rings look fine.  You think I should replace them?
>>
>> Asa Jay
>> <didn't budget for a total rebuild>
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &  Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
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>>
>> On 7/3/2012 8:23 PM, David in Durango wrote:
>>> Observations/opinion:
>>> new oil pump - that has had some dirt go through it.
>>> Hone the cylinders - I have a new hone you can use.
>>> re-use the rings???
>>> Look at those bearings again and tell me it never ran low on oil . . . .
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts . . . .
>>>
>>>
>>> david
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>
>>> To:<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:30 PM
>>> Subject: [TPR] Still cleaning things for the engine going into the 
>>> Pantera
>>>
>>>
>>>> Today I spent time cleaning the pistons:
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5310
>>>>
>>>> Then I inspected the oil pump:
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5293
>>>>
>>>> I think I'll be getting a new oil pump.  The pistons on the other hand
>>>> are ready to re-install.
>>>>
>>>> Time to sit back, enjoy the holiday and wait for parts.
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> PS.  The engine just ate my tire budget.  It may be another couple
>>>> months before I have enough.  I'm trying to sell stuff though so maybe
>>>> I'll get some cash sooner.
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> &   Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>> ******************************
>>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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