[TPR] ARGH! Hatch no longer fits
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Mon Aug 27 21:04:51 PDT 2012
I nearly followed Jack's article in the January 2006 newsletter to a T,
in order to make my one piece firewall cover into a two-piece. The only
deviation I made was to make the top cut right where the fiberglass
transitioned from the bubble to the padded roll area, instead of a half
inch -below- which the article recommended. I wanted as much clearance
as possible to get the hatch back in, so I made the cut higher.
NOW... I can't get my hatch in place because the top interferes. The
width is correct and clears nicely, but the very bottom of the padded
roll is in the way by about a quarter inch from getting the top of the
hatch in place. I'm stuck now and not exactly sure how I'm going to
proceed. I may have to remove another quarter inch from the padded roll
but then my bubble will be short and the padded roll will look funky
with a kind of -rise- on the bottom in the center. I'll have to play
with it a bit more. I have a 1973 L model. Not sure how different it
is from earlier models this mod has been done on.
But, I'm not too happy about it.
Of course... it was the -last- thing I tried tonight, after installing
the roll bar and harnesses. Yes, I installed the bolts from the inside
out, so the nuts show on the outside and they've all been
double-nutted. The opening in the hatch looked big enough so I didn't
worry about a test fit. Now I might regret it. It took me about two
hours to get the roll bar and harnesses installed. If I have to take it
all back out, it should be less time, as the harnesses are already
attached now (looped over the tubing) and I've got the method down for
installing the bolts in the rockers.
<sigh>
I have an all day trip to Portland tomorrow. I catch a plane at 6AM and
don't get home till after 10PM. No work on the car tomorrow. I was
hoping to drive it to work on Wednesday, but now that I can't get the
hatch in place, I won't be able to. I'll have to do a -lot- of driving
this weekend to catch up on my break-in miles.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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On 8/26/2012 2:43 PM, bob Radefeld wrote:
> Ahh, YES. That fact momentarily escaped me!! :o((
> Rowdy
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com
> <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
> On 8/26/2012 10:02 AM, Teampantera wrote:
>>
>> Keep us out of trouble?
>> TIGGGA PLEEEEAZE....we're gonnabe popping his cherry
>>
>> bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com> <mailto:bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Way to go Asa, you're really cook'in with gas now!! BTW, I did
>> Jack's two
>> >piece conversion on my car a few years back & yea, it was a PIA
>> project! If
>> >you run into any problems with mounting the bubble back on to
>> the engine
>> >cover feel free to e-mail or give me a shout & I'll try & help
>> if I can. In
>> >the meanwhile, keep plugging away so you can be @ SSCC to keep
>> Dawgy &
>> >the boys out of trouble!! :o))
>> >
>> >Rowdy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM, B Hower
>> <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> <mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Glad to here it is going well ------- I know you put in lots
>> of effort
>> >> and hours.
>> >>
>> >> Bud #3400
>> >>
>> >> --- On *Sat, 8/25/12, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>* wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>
>> >> Subject: [TPR] ... and it's another Saturday in the history books.
>> >> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com <mailto:tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>> >> Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today, I took the plunge of hacking up my perfectly good
>> (well not
>> >> -perfectly- good, but you get the idea) firewall cover. Using the
>> >> instructions provided by Jack DeRyke in the POCA newsletter,
>> January 2006
>> >> edition, I cut the bubble out of my firewall cover. <gasp>
>> >>
>> >> Well, I -had- planned on keeping it in one piece for
>> posterity, but being
>> >> a bit cheap these days decided to go ahead and try for a
>> two-piece. If I
>> >> ever want to have a one piece again... I'll buy one later.
>> >>
>> >> It was -not- as easy as Jack made it out to be. In my case, I
>> had to
>> >> remove the entire surround trim that goes up one side, across
>> the top and
>> >> down the other side. There was no way for me to remove the
>> vinyl at the
>> >> top of the bubble without doing so. -That- is a pain in the
>> ass job.
>> >>
>> >> Once I got that off, the rest went pretty easy. I hope I got
>> it cut in
>> >> the right place, because it's a done deal now. I've not tried
>> it in the
>> >> car yet; it's after quitting time for today. I got the trim
>> back on the
>> >> main panel and tried to glue the vinyl wrapped on the
>> backside. Tomorrow
>> >> I'll wrap and glue the bubble, then try it all out for size.
>> >>
>> >> I also drilled the shoulder bolt holes in the rear hoop of my
>> cage.
>> >> I also picked up a 10" air cleaner from Napa, cheap, and will
>> run it until
>> >> I can get the proper sized/shaped one from K&N. Oh, and with
>> that, Shelley
>> >> and I put the deck lid on too.
>> >>
>> >> Monday, I start driving it to work daily to get the engine
>> broken in.
>> >>
>> >> Asa Jay
>> >>
>> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> >> & Shelley Marie
>> >> Spokane, WA
>> >> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.comhttp://www.teampanteraracing.comhttp://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>> <http://www.racingagainstautism.comhttp//www.teampanteraracing.comhttp://facebook.com/racingagainstautism>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/24/2012 9:04 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Shelley, Sam and I just got back from a three day vacation in
>> the woods
>> >> near the south end of Lake Coeur d' Alene, at Heyburn State
>> Park. A small
>> >> 12'x12' cabin, one room, bunk beds. Out door flushless toilet
>> (read that
>> >> as *Outhouse*), no showers, but luckily a standpipe with cool
>> clear fresh
>> >> water.
>> >>
>> >> It's all good, we've had our showers now that we're home. :)
>> >>
>> >> Back to the Pantera.
>> >> It suddenly hit me sometime yesterday. I can't put my deck
>> lid on,
>> >> because the air cleaner is now too high. It's not a matter of
>> wanting to
>> >> put the engine screen on, no... it's a matter of the 14" air
>> filter sticks
>> >> out past the deck lid line by about an inch and a half. When
>> I had the
>> >> stock manifold on it was no problem, the air filter fit tight
>> -under- the
>> >> decklid. Now with the aluminum dual-plane FPP-4145 plus a
>> half-inch
>> >> spacer, the whole thing is too tall by about an inch.
>> >>
>> >> DRAT!
>> >>
>> >> It's always something isn't it? heheheh
>> >> Three options come readily to mind. (not to mention the
>> dogbone air
>> >> cleaner which I honestly just don't like the looks of).
>> >> Option 1, offset base plate for the air filter, also the least
>> expensive,
>> >> and possibly can be sourced locally:
>> >> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10
>> >>
>> >> Option 2, Triangular K&N filter assembly, 14" diameter but we
>> all know how
>> >> the geometry of a triangle works, right? We'd simply point
>> this toward the
>> >> window, leaving the flat edge parallel to and a half inch or
>> so from the
>> >> leading edge of the deck lid:
>> >> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10
>> >>
>> >> Option 3, an oval air cleaner, mount it sideways, valve cover
>> to valve
>> >> cover. I don't know this option has as much CFM capacity though:
>> >> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10
>> >>
>> >> I'll be calling around Spokane tomorrow to see if I can source
>> the offset
>> >> base; cheapest and easiest. Then, I'll begin work on turning
>> my one-piece
>> >> firewall cover into a two-piece firewall cover. I have no
>> reason to
>> >> believe that won't go well, so then the next item will be to
>> get the roll
>> >> cage rear hoop in place, drill the holes for the shoulder
>> bolts (the stock
>> >> attach point) and maybe bolt it in place. I say maybe because
>> if I can get
>> >> a friend to help fix the drivers side hoop connection holes,
>> maybe I'll
>> >> take it all in for powder coating and install the whole
>> thing. I also need
>> >> to look at sourcing some roll bar padding. I guess I better
>> start looking
>> >> that up now. :)
>> >>
>> >> I think vacation is over.
>> >> Asa Jay
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> >> & Shelley Marie
>> >> Spokane, WA
>> >> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.comhttp://www.teampanteraracing.comhttp://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>> <http://www.racingagainstautism.comhttp//www.teampanteraracing.comhttp://facebook.com/racingagainstautism>
>> >>
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>> Way to go Asa, you're really cook'in with gas now!! BTW, I did
>> Jack's two piece conversion on my car a few years back & yea, it
>> was a PIA project! If you run into any problems with mounting the
>> bubble back on to the engine cover feel free to e-mail or give me
>> a shout & I'll try & help if I can. In the meanwhile, keep
>> plugging away so you can be @ SSCC to keep Dawgy & the boys out
>> of trouble!! :o))
>> Rowdy
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM, B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Glad to here it is going well ------- I know you put in lots
>> of effort and hours.
>> Bud #3400
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 8/25/12, Asa Jay Laughton /<asajay at asajay.com
>> <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com
>> <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>
>> Subject: [TPR] ... and it's another Saturday in the
>> history books.
>> To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>> <mailto:tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>> Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
>>
>>
>> Today, I took the plunge of hacking up my perfectly good
>> (well not -perfectly- good, but you get the idea)
>> firewall cover. Using the instructions provided by Jack
>> DeRyke in the POCA newsletter, January 2006 edition, I
>> cut the bubble out of my firewall cover. <gasp>
>>
>> Well, I -had- planned on keeping it in one piece for
>> posterity, but being a bit cheap these days decided to go
>> ahead and try for a two-piece. If I ever want to have a
>> one piece again... I'll buy one later.
>>
>> It was -not- as easy as Jack made it out to be. In my
>> case, I had to remove the entire surround trim that goes
>> up one side, across the top and down the other side.
>> There was no way for me to remove the vinyl at the top of
>> the bubble without doing so. -That- is a pain in the ass
>> job.
>>
>> Once I got that off, the rest went pretty easy. I hope I
>> got it cut in the right place, because it's a done deal
>> now. I've not tried it in the car yet; it's after
>> quitting time for today. I got the trim back on the main
>> panel and tried to glue the vinyl wrapped on the
>> backside. Tomorrow I'll wrap and glue the bubble, then
>> try it all out for size.
>>
>> I also drilled the shoulder bolt holes in the rear hoop
>> of my cage.
>> I also picked up a 10" air cleaner from Napa, cheap, and
>> will run it until I can get the proper sized/shaped one
>> from K&N. Oh, and with that, Shelley and I put the deck
>> lid on too.
>>
>> Monday, I start driving it to work daily to get the
>> engine broken in.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/2012 9:04 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>>> Shelley, Sam and I just got back from a three day
>>> vacation in the woods near the south end of Lake Coeur
>>> d' Alene, at Heyburn State Park. A small 12'x12' cabin,
>>> one room, bunk beds. Out door flushless toilet (read
>>> that as _/Outhouse/_), no showers, but luckily a
>>> standpipe with cool clear fresh water.
>>>
>>> It's all good, we've had our showers now that we're
>>> home. :)
>>>
>>> Back to the Pantera.
>>> It suddenly hit me sometime yesterday. I can't put my
>>> deck lid on, because the air cleaner is now too high.
>>> It's not a matter of wanting to put the engine screen
>>> on, no... it's a matter of the 14" air filter sticks out
>>> past the deck lid line by about an inch and a half.
>>> When I had the stock manifold on it was no problem, the
>>> air filter fit tight -under- the decklid. Now with the
>>> aluminum dual-plane FPP-4145 plus a half-inch spacer,
>>> the whole thing is too tall by about an inch.
>>>
>>> DRAT!
>>>
>>> It's always something isn't it? heheheh
>>> Three options come readily to mind. (not to mention the
>>> dogbone air cleaner which I honestly just don't like the
>>> looks of).
>>> Option 1, offset base plate for the air filter, also the
>>> least expensive, and possibly can be sourced locally:
>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-85-3540/?rtype=10
>>>
>>> Option 2, Triangular K&N filter assembly, 14" diameter
>>> but we all know how the geometry of a triangle works,
>>> right? We'd simply point this toward the window,
>>> leaving the flat edge parallel to and a half inch or so
>>> from the leading edge of the deck lid:
>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-60-1470/?rtype=10
>>>
>>> Option 3, an oval air cleaner, mount it sideways, valve
>>> cover to valve cover. I don't know this option has as
>>> much CFM capacity though:
>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-1510/?rtype=10
>>>
>>> I'll be calling around Spokane tomorrow to see if I can
>>> source the offset base; cheapest and easiest. Then,
>>> I'll begin work on turning my one-piece firewall cover
>>> into a two-piece firewall cover. I have no reason to
>>> believe that won't go well, so then the next item will
>>> be to get the roll cage rear hoop in place, drill the
>>> holes for the shoulder bolts (the stock attach point)
>>> and maybe bolt it in place. I say maybe because if I
>>> can get a friend to help fix the drivers side hoop
>>> connection holes, maybe I'll take it all in for powder
>>> coating and install the whole thing. I also need to
>>> look at sourcing some roll bar padding. I guess I
>>> better start looking that up now. :)
>>>
>>> I think vacation is over.
>>> Asa Jay
>>> --
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> & Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>> ******************************
>>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
>>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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