[TPR] WHERE HAVE ALL THE OLD CARS GONE?? Re: SS 2011

Tue Sep 20 18:48:08 PDT 2011

I'll be back next year.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
[mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:29 PM
To: John Bentley; tpr
Subject: Re: [TPR] WHERE HAVE ALL THE OLD CARS GONE?? Re: SS 2011

HAHAHA....thats wrong!

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com>
To: tpr <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TPR] WHERE HAVE ALL THE OLD CARS GONE?? Re: SS 2011

that's the problem..... can't seem to get anyone to show up anymore.  Even
those racers with 700 HP engines are still on the front porch swing
wondering what time the lemonade will be ready! :)

JB

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From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: "steve at donegan.org" <steve at donegan.org>; David <adin at frontier.net>
Cc: Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net>; John Bentley
<gndplne at yahoo.com>; "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE OLD CARS GONE?? Re: [TPR] SS 2011

Now that I think about it....the Pantera club has plenty of old special guys
with disabilities...not a bad thing if they show up and kick our asses ;-]>
of course offering someone $5 grand didn't seem to motivate them
either....Bud was only guy who we sponsored in 2010 and of course now that
AJ has moved to Brazil (dirty ratbastard) we have no money left in
Treasury....I told you fokkers we could NOT trust him....BUT NOOOOO

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: "steve at donegan.org" <steve at donegan.org>
To: David <adin at frontier.net>; Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Cc: Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net>; John Bentley
<gndplne at yahoo.com>; "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE OLD CARS GONE?? Re: [TPR] SS 2011

Well, I arrived Sunday in Vegas, so for me it was a solid week of fun :-)
Make it a Pantera gathering, Hotel Sam's Town, starting on the May or
September Sunday before the race (Sam's Town is a 29$/night hotel kiddies
with a buffet that is like 6$ for breakfast etc - ie cheap). That gives
folks several days to enjoy each other before the race stuff begins...

I plan on being in the May and September events and will definitely do the
whole week thing :-)

Cheers, from Steve (Speed AKA Irish) Donegan :-)
____________
Steven Donegan
SSCC/NORC Car #86
www.sscc.us

--- On Tue, 9/20/11, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Subject: WHERE HAVE ALL THE OLD CARS GONE?? Re: [TPR] SS 2011
To: "steve at donegan.org" <steve at donegan.org>, "David" <adin at frontier.net>
Cc: "Steve Hawkins" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>, "John Bentley"
<gndplne at yahoo.com>, "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 5:43 PM

Good post Irish.....sorry we didn't get to spend any time
together....another reason these events need to be longer....

140 cars and too many friends out of that group who we never get enough time
to hang with.....

Good point on remembering these guys....the best way we can show our support
for them is coming back in the spring and yea soon as I get over the part of
these guys passing who I knew for years I will move on.

Again, great idea on motivating Pantera people to attend.....just showing up
and running 100-125 with a old car like the Pantera or a Mustang, or a
Corvette or any old car amazes people.....I still get messages and questions
from the veterans asking 
"WHEN are the Pantera guys coming back"???.......

Response; "They are retired waiting for any vintage team to show up with 10
cars....we invited Corvette (how many million produced?), Ferrari, Jaguar,
Mustang and other clubs several times....I just gave up on the recruitment
biz because we have a hard time getting 2 panteras to start....and
finish...look at the odds....JB and I finished SilverState Sunday....there
was not one vintage car in my division...nothing but Vipers, Z06's, and
Porsche's....the oldest car was a 89 Pontiac Firebird....and in JB's case
other then Chris's 77 Ford Cobra II and Oliver Perkins in his flat black '79
Vette there was not anything older OR faster...maybe we should just buy NEW
cars heh?
NOOOO F'ING WAY!!!

Okay I must be feeling better....sarcasm is back ;-)>

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: "steve at donegan.org" <steve at donegan.org>
To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>; David <adin at frontier.net>
Cc: Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net>; John Bentley
<gndplne at yahoo.com>; "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011

Ely newspaper also reported the incident - news is bound to leak. We had a
minute of silence for these gentlemen racers at the awards banquet, I will
be doing the same daily until May.

That said I'm already starting preparations for May (and even September for
the 25th anniversary). Mad Dog - get everyone motivated to have the largest
number of Pantera's ever assembled next September for that event!

Next mods - Stillen oil cooler (Setrab 25 row), Mishimoto 160F thermostat,
complete the pure silicone water hose array :-) It's a 370Z, not a Pantera
:-)

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Steven Donegan
SSCC/NORC Car #86
www.sscc.us

--- On Tue, 9/20/11, David <adin at frontier.net> wrote:

From: David <adin at frontier.net>
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011
To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Steve Hawkins" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>, "tpr at teampanteraracing.com"
<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>, "John Bentley" <gndplne at yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 4:05 PM

Amen to the joy of old and new friends!

It's a sad thought that a brief handshake is all I'll ever know of those
good old boys in the parking lot. 

I know Dennis (?) said the media would be locked down but the Reno media is
in a frenzy-I was told this morning that the two deaths were reported as
"blew a tire at 200mph" at the Silver State. 

Don't forget, the happy pedal works both ways. 

Godspeed. 

David from Reno. 

On Sep 19, 2011, at 10: PM, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

If a hundred or more things go wrong at speeds even at speeds close to 150
Mph the best safety equipment in the world may not save you....

Still for all those who were looking for an excuse now to NOT do open road
racing this is a good excuse not to go or at least not to go fast....Yes,
the road is not in as good a shape as it was and neither is nebraska or
Texas but it is what it is and as you said once if you need to slow down for
the dips or rumble strips then just slow the fok down....

But going fast and being on the edge is an adrenlin high......and that was
what Rick and Merle were doing....right on the edge at 190+ mph speeds. 

Yea,  both these guys will be missed. I spent half of Thursday and Friday
with Rick in the parking lot his Camaro and my Pantera side by side.....yea
the hard part is seeing someone go you will miss and know he will be missed
more by his family.

Its not a sport for the feint of heart.

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
 <http://www.teampanteraracing.com> www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com>
To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>; Steve Hawkins
<shawkins777 at comcast.net>
Cc: "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011

I'm also very sad to hear about the Camaro accident.  Good guys.  We all
know (or at least should know) the risks when driving at ORR events, but
that doesn't stop our need for speed.  You do your homework, you prepare
your car, install all the safety equipment you can afford, and work up in
the speed classes until you've had enough.  But at the end of the day, we
all know something can happen and we end up upside-down in the dessert.  The
is no way to eliminate risk.  I thought the road was not in as good of shape
as years past.

In time we will deal with this loss and get back in the drivers seat.  It
was great to get together in Ely and see old friends and some new ones.

JB

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From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
Cc: "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011

Hey Hawk,
Short answer is no.........rumor mill has mis-ID'd others who were not even
in the car with Rick & Merle....as Rick's son usually drove and his dad
(Rick) usually navigated....Merle was a stand in which he has done as
navigator many times.....Merle usually works Tech as did Rick.

I am pretty certain having been here when these accidents occur that words
like
"excessive speed", 'lost control', 'massive injuries/fire/etc are all gonna
be used....In Ricks case that Camaro was a beast....full race engine but it
also had full cage and they had all the safety gear including head/neck/back
restraints, fire suppression.....but its a simple lesson in physics too. ;-(

190+ on a crowned 2 lane road that like Nebras and Texas are no where close
to being in good shape.....add the new centerline rumble strips that caused
Moonshine's accident last year (he was in my race group) I think its
noteworthy to say these kind of accidents are rare......but those rumble
strips in center lane are little pockets where any road debris, bolts, nails
etc can fall into.....also apexing across them on sweeper turns at 155-160
as I was and they shake/rattle the hell out of the car....everyone's
car.....but as someone said....these are the course
"conditions"......patches of road, dips, blind hills, canyon road, off
camber turns....and all this on a crowned road.....so running on ragged edge
its just a matter of time and luck to how long it takes you to either lose
control or pick up someone's debris.....yea speed kills but so do allot of
other things....speed is just a lot faster.

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
 <http://www.teampanteraracing.com> www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
To: 
Cc: '{TPR}' <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011

MD

Glad you and JB are OK, very sad to hear about the fatality's.  Do they have
any idea what happened?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
[mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of B Hower
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:36 AM
To: Mad Dog Antenucci
Cc: {TPR}
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011

Mad Dog,

Thanks for the report, I have been wondering and waiting for results. Glad
to hear you and JB finished without problems. The accident and lose of lives
is truly sad. I cannot find words to express this properly.

Bud #3400

--- On Mon, 9/19/11, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TPR] SS 2011
To: "David" <adin at frontier.net>, "asajay at asajay.com" <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: "tpr at teampanteraracing.com" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 6:50 AM

Unfortunately while JB and I both finished the run today two of our fellow
veteran racers (Rick DeKneef & Merle Hill) died today when their Unlimited
red Camaro went off the road, crashed and caught fire....both reported dead
at scene. NDOT and Highway Patrol investigators put a press lid on accident.

We're in Reno tonight and headed back to SF/SJ in morning...After Air Race
deaths here in Reno andand deaths today in Ely its not a great time to be in
Nevada.

Very sad day.

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
 <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/> www.teampanteraracing.com

----- Original Message -----
From: David <adin at frontier.net>
To: asajay at asajay.com
Cc: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: [TPR] SS 2011

JB and the Dawg got teched yesterday in spite of too much fun Friday nite. 

As soon as I got Dennis buckled in and a few pictures shot I left. Beautiful
day and lots of good noises! 

David, leaving Ely

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